Firefox Browser: best for a free web

Post by kaba0 » Tue, Sep 14, 2021, 9:54 AM UTC

techrat wrote: post #71

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Every time I use Firefox I find some other stupid issue that just doesn't fly in 2021. Today it might be a top 50 website that doesn't work properly, yesterday maybe it's excessive cpu usage, day before maybe pinch to zoom doesn't work. Who knows what dumb crap is happening tomorrow. Life is too short to muck around with half baked software.

Firefox is a dumpster fire half the time. I use Firefox still for exactly ONE website: Facebook. To keep it sandboxed. I still have to restart Firefox at least once every other day because it leaks and becomes a runaway process. No plugins/addons. As stock as it gets. One single website only... and it still pukes all over itself.

Post by kaba0 » Tue, Sep 14, 2021, 10:03 AM UTC

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Firefox seems to be the only hope to avoid a duopoly dominated by forces that are anti-privacy and anti-user. I recently made the move from Safari to Firefox and I am very pleased. This being said, I agree with you about the optics of Firefox management. There is a lot going on that isn't good and the personal enrichment of the executives feels all sorts of wrong. If FF management can not be good stewards of a vital…

Not really, since they never found a proper business model. So far, how do they make money? How do they pay the developers? How do they plan to be sustainable? Is there any place where I can see who donated them? Which share of donations is given by large companies that are constantly breaking the values the Mozilla foundation stands for? Was the news that Google will pay $400M per year to be the default search engin…

Post by thedailymail » Tue, Sep 14, 2021, 10:29 AM UTC

denton-scratch wrote: post #112

thedailymail wrote: post #35

The fact alone that FF is the best-optimized browser for uBlock Origin makes it an easy choice for me. It's interesting to me that many of my favorite/most used web technologies in the past decade or so have come from individual, non-profit developers just trying to make something useful, free and flying in the face of a lot of legal and industry norms (e.g., gorhill, elbakyan). In my experience, these tend to work b…

Tor isn't built from FF, AFAIAA (TorBrowser is though).

Post by FranklinMaillot » Tue, Sep 14, 2021, 10:51 AM UTC

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It makes me sad that FF browser share has continued to decline steadily. The past couple years of releases have been some its the best in terms of my own UX, since perhaps the Phoenix era. It's pretty fast these days, the UI is good, has a lot of great extensions and privacy features. I use Brave at work to have a better chrome-based experience with gsuite. It's also a fast, excellent browser with good privacy featur…

Just out of curiosity, what are some of Chrome's shady dealings? I'm not too informed on the subject.

Post by gilrain » Tue, Sep 14, 2021, 12:22 PM UTC

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I still ask myself: has FF browser share actually dropped that much, or has FF's privacy focus caused browser share estimates to mostly miss FF users in their counts? Most of these stats come from the exact kind of skeevy companies that I (and many other FireFox users) are using FireFox to avoid.

My take on FF "decline" is that FF user share (%) dropped because the pie started expanding (especially on mobile). New internet users are likely to be Safari or Chrome users for whom the browser they have is good enough. And Firefox on mobile is simply not as fast as alternatives (the bar set by Chromium Android is very high), kinda painful to use unless you have a highend device, esp. JS heavy sites like Twitter wo…