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Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by paranoidrobot »

fctorial wrote: post #170
paranoidrobot wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, I think they mean the stable Windows 10 that pushes Xbox, Skype, Microsoft Office, SkyDrive, and Candy Crush onto you. The one that "helpfully" resets default applications and privacy settings to the ones Microsoft wants you to use, and then whines at you (or gives vague threats) when you do choose something else. The one that turned logging in from pretty much an instant thing to a random wait while you get a "W…

windows education edition doesn't have ads, or candy crush.

That's of limited help.

It doesn't apply to anyone who's not eligible for that edition, isn't aware of it's existence, is just using the version that came with their device, or needs some specific feature in the 'Pro' variants (or whatever it's called now).

I remember having to bump up an edition from Home to get Bitlocker support for full-disk-encryption and something else.

e: While I've now migrated off Windows for a few years now, I still occasionally have to help family members who're wondering why X or Y no longer works, because MS decided to reset preferences.

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by swiley »

walteweiss wrote: post #172
throwawayboise wrote: post #155

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I installed OpenBSD about 10 years ago and have used nothing else on my personal computers since then. It does occasionally have breaking changes in its updates, but they never happen without you taking action to initiate them. The idea that we're OK with random popups, feature promotions, nags to use this or that or enable some setting, and outright advertising on our computers is just mind-boggling.

Why did you choose this very OS? Considering there are many of BSDs and Linux as well.

OpenBSD tends to be minimalist and pragmatic. I’ve used it before, it’s a good no-nonsense OS.

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by BizarroLand »

easton wrote: post #71
BizarroLand wrote: post #18

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For me, in Windows 10, I can type "calc" into the search menu and it will recommend and open the calendar app instead of the calculator app 2 out of 5 times. I will search for an app that I have installed and instead of opening the app it will open a bing search for the app that I have installed. It's so infuriating that if there were a M$ rep within arm reach I might be tempted to do violence towards them.

From a command prompt (you shouldn't need admin rights), run "REG ADD HKCU\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Explorer /v DisableSearchBoxSuggestions /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f", which disables the web search suggestions in the registry. After restarting Windows Explorer (or logging off and back on), you should have search work how you'd expect.

Nice. That's super helpful!

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by JohnFen »

errantspark wrote: post #23

It's so mind boggling to me that we're okay with this level of uncertainty about the systems we rely on every day. I run LTSC with updates disabled because the idea that something that's working one day would stop working the next drives me up the wall. I have a linux phone (which is awful) because at least when that breaks it's my fault and I can always just put it back into a known working state. I hate how my rela…

> It's so mind boggling to me that we're okay with this level of uncertainty about the systems we rely on every day.

I'm not OK with it. It's one of the many reasons why I stopped using Windows on my own machines a decade or so ago. Sadly, though, I still have to use it at work, and every workday, I'm reminded why I stopped using Windows.

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by JohnFen »

swiley wrote: post #182
walteweiss wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why did you choose this very OS? Considering there are many of BSDs and Linux as well.

OpenBSD tends to be minimalist and pragmatic. I’ve used it before, it’s a good no-nonsense OS.

Yes. I've decided to switch from Linux to BSD for various reasons. That's going to be a slow switch, though -- I have a lot of machines that need to addressed.

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by JohnFen »

MrStonedOne wrote: post #91
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #35

To clarify, though, this is just an issue for people who are deliberately getting preview builds (aka beta testers), correct? The article feels pretty click-baity with that critical detail not part of the title.

internet downloaded ads shouldn't be able to break your computers. like, even in a buggy system, it shouldn't happened, and there is clearly not enough isolation, something that isn't gonna get fixed in a release candidate and be prepared for this to somehow turn into a ring0 exploit later down the line.

Even more than that, your OS should not be showing you ads at all, let alone downloading them. The problem here isn't that the facility went wrong, it's that the facility exists.

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by JohnFen »

jussij wrote: post #44
meibo wrote: post #17

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It's such a shame too. Windows 10 is a great modern OS that everyone expected to last and be built upon, but they just had to go and push out a new "modernized" version and fill it up with ads. I wonder what you pay to be in the Windows 10 Pro start menu and if it's really worth selling out their professional userbase.

Is Windows 10 really that good? It's been some time now, but I still remember the first time I upgraded away from Windows 7 and feeling disappointed. Since then my hardware is massively more powerful, but I'm still to be convinced my current Windows 10 setup is better than that older Windows 7 setup.

> Is Windows 10 really that good?

Compared to Windows 8, yes. Compared to most anything else, no.

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by [deleted] »

hfktktnfkgk wrote: post #8

One bug I've been hitting for a couple of years on Windows 10: If the computer starts with a working Internet connection, but then you lose Internet, Start Menu search just stops working during net downtime. Meaning I type some app name like "calc" in the Start Menu search box and nothing appears! Which is absolutely ridiculous, I can't search for locally installed apps, or Windows settings. Even if I disabled Cortan…

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Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by thomastjeffery »

dexwiz wrote: post #154
shkkmo wrote: post #144

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You mean the same windows 10 that I never bother to boot into because every time I do various services decide to do so many indexing and updating tasks that it pegs the hard drive at 100% for hours? I should be able to launch windows every couple of months without having to wait so long to do anything that I forget why I even booted into windows in the first place.

This drives me insane. I try to boot up and play a game, only to find my FPS cut in half due to some background d operation that Windows has determined critical. But not critical enough to tell me beforehand.

Not to mention the fake fullscreen mode that is actually windowed borderless with the compositor disabled.

You used to be able to "disable fullscreen optimizations" in properties to get real exclusive fullscreen mode, but now you have to edit a registry entry for that binary, and even that doesn't work most of the time.

I have this beautiful 144hz monitor for a reason: latency sucks.

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