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TikTok overtakes YouTube for average watch time in US and UK

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Re: TikTok overtakes YouTube for average watch time in US and UK

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Post by blitzar »

ipaddr wrote: post #82
crateless wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As they drop bombs on innocent people across the Middle East. smh

I think the majority of countries have dropped or shot bombs at somepoint in the last 100 years. Is that the only reason you do not think they are civilized? Any countries that have dropped bombs are not civilized?

> I think the majority of countries have dropped or shot bombs at somepoint in the last 100 years.

195 countries in the world... Only have to find ~100 countries that have bombed another country in the last century. Only thing I can see that is going to save that assumption is going to be ww2.

Re: TikTok overtakes YouTube for average watch time in US and UK

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Post by csours »

TikTok feels so incredibly fake. I know that a lot of that same fake content is available on YouTube, but on YouTube, I can subscribe to creators that do real things or offer substantial and interesting critiques. TikTok and Facebook video feel like broadcast TV - highly over-dramatized and over-hyped. Again, I know the same is available on YT, but I can also use it my way.

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Post by gentleman11 »

wutbrodo wrote: post #154
Rd6n6 wrote: post #137

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It’s 2 way. The tracking and profiling algorithms infer a lot by watching people. The viewers might not realize it’s two way though

That's an extremely expansive definition of "two-way", to the point of meaninglessness. If you were to bite this bullet, you'd also preclude the type of extremely basic work to get informed that any patient should be doing when engaging with the healthcare system (including for physical health). Basic research about your health problems doesn't even preclude putting full faith in your doctor and his recommendations;…

I don’t think you want mental health information going where it could be used against you.

Eg,

> Cheng believes the website that doxed him by publishing his personal information online was started by pro-Beijing supporters in Hong Kong.

> “I feel fear,” he admitted. His family, too, was scared and told him not to walk home alone anymore. But part of Cheng remains defiant as he considers the doxing website a component of a larger campaign to incite fear in protesters as mass demonstrations continue into their third month.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/rosalindadams/hong-kong...

https://mashable.com/article/doj-accuses-zoom-employee-china...

Re: TikTok overtakes YouTube for average watch time in US and UK

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Post by swiley »

MathCodeLove wrote: post #11

I feel like I'm going crazy. Hasn't TikTok been proven malicious in it's excessive user tracking and data theft? Why does everyone I know still use it? Outside of privacy concerns, doesn't the blackbox algorithm make anyone worry? We're building automated echochambers for an entire population. We're giving a Chinese company the ability to control the content consumption, and therefore beliefs and knowledge, of entire…

Tok Tok is just YouTube but with the opaqueness turned up to 11. Most of the people who use YouTube without worry think Tik Tok is an improvement.

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Post by ajsnigrutin »

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #41
MathCodeLove wrote: post #11

I feel like I'm going crazy. Hasn't TikTok been proven malicious in it's excessive user tracking and data theft? Why does everyone I know still use it? Outside of privacy concerns, doesn't the blackbox algorithm make anyone worry? We're building automated echochambers for an entire population. We're giving a Chinese company the ability to control the content consumption, and therefore beliefs and knowledge, of entire…

As a Frenchmen, Youtube is exactly the same: - algo is a black box, and uncalibrated youtube makes my eyes bleed; - own by the biggest spy on the planet, google, known for manipulating information, monopolistic behavior, participation in the worst gov programs (e.g: PRISM); - impose American censorship rules to the entire world, and makes creators do inane cuts to fit some terrible metrics Besides, the typical Tik To…

Yep, but tiktok is chinese, youtube is american, so by definition tiktok bad, youtube good.

All the "data gathering" mentioned in all the FUD around tiktok in recent years is done by google/facebook too, and noone mentiones it at all.

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Post by nemothekid »

MathCodeLove wrote: post #131
refenestrator wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US was killing more central asians than China every year of the last 20 years straight. Hopefully no longer true going forward. So, I guess it comes down to definitions and how you spin things. Personally, I'd say the country that killed more people was doing more bad stuff, but you can bracket things and explain why some 'count' more than others if you want.

> The US was killing more central asians than China every year of the last 20 years straight. Hopefully no longer true going forward. That's absolutely a fallacious comparison. 1. We don't have accurate data from China on the number imprisoned and killed by them, so no one can make absolutely comparisons like you did. 2. The Chinese do this to people living peacefully inside their borders. If the US started rounding…

>2. The Chinese do this to people living peacefully inside their borders. If the US started rounding up and killing ethnic minorities WW2 concentration camp style then you could make this comparison. The US was engaged in active conflict with a group that itself was detrimental to human (specifically, women's) rights and that engaged us first.

This kind of whitewashing is what allows us as Americans to ignore the mass scale death we inflict while pointing fingers at other kettles. You don't even have the cause of events correct - we invaded afghanistan first, America were the aggressors. Do you think we invaded Afghanistan to preserve women's rights? Do you know that American soldiers were told to turn a blind eye to the afghan national army raping little boys? You mention that we don't have accurate numbers about china's tyranny, but under Trump, we repealed the rule that the USG had to report drone strike casualties. I'm not surprised other countries don't see a functional difference between the US and China, after all only one of those countries has a solid track record of overturning democratically conducted elections because they didn't like the outcome.

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Post by wickoff »

MathCodeLove wrote: post #11

I feel like I'm going crazy. Hasn't TikTok been proven malicious in it's excessive user tracking and data theft? Why does everyone I know still use it? Outside of privacy concerns, doesn't the blackbox algorithm make anyone worry? We're building automated echochambers for an entire population. We're giving a Chinese company the ability to control the content consumption, and therefore beliefs and knowledge, of entire…

As a person who is hopelessly addicted to refreshing feeds I can say that TikTok is the first app in 10 years that replaced reddit - my previous digital drug of choice. Their algo is just to good. People without rich and fulfilling lives don't stand a chance.

Re: TikTok overtakes YouTube for average watch time in US and UK

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Post by blitzar »

simiones wrote: post #78
ipaddr wrote: post #61

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And the state department. Letting that on your phone is allowing your contacts, photos and text messages to be read. Same goes with facebook. But facebook will try to profit off of your data. Tiktok data goes to China. I don't know what they are doing with it..

> But facebook will try to profit off of your data. Tiktok data goes to China. I don't know what they are doing with it.. FB data also goes to the US government. I don't know what they are doing with it..

The US want to take all my money and put me in jail. I like my freedom.

China want to blackmail me to do their bidding. I dont actually have much shame, so probably wont work so good.

There are days where I think the lesser of two evils when it comes to invading my privacy might be the regime whos jurisdiction I am not, and likely never will be present in.

Re: TikTok overtakes YouTube for average watch time in US and UK

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Post by [deleted] »

ipaddr wrote: post #82
crateless wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As they drop bombs on innocent people across the Middle East. smh

I think the majority of countries have dropped or shot bombs at somepoint in the last 100 years. Is that the only reason you do not think they are civilized? Any countries that have dropped bombs are not civilized?

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Re: TikTok overtakes YouTube for average watch time in US and UK

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Post by [deleted] »

the_third_wave wrote: post #153
nkotov wrote: post #74

I believe it. Nowadays, I watch perhaps 1-2 videos a day on Youtube. The addictive endless scrolling of content on Tiktok means I'm spending on average an hour a day.

Sounds like it is time to add TikTok to you blocklist and get back an hour a day. Add the following to whatever filter/blocklist you use and rejoice in all that regained freedom: # TikTok abtest-va-tiktok.byteoversea.com api16-core-c-alisg.tiktokv.com api16-core-c-useast1a.tiktokv.com api16-core-c-useast2a.tiktokv.com api16-core-va.tiktokv.com api16-normal-c-alisg.tiktokv.com api16-normal-c-useast1a.tiktokv.com api16…

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