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Captcha pictures force you to look at the world the way an AI does

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Re: Captcha pictures force you to look at the world the way an AI does

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I've read the whole article, and I see so many comments agreeing or even adding detail to the post. Am I really in the minority if this kind of thing couldn't even cross my mind or feels like written by someone living in a parallel universe? A few poorly shot street photos are "unbearably depressing"? And there's even a detailed explanation breaking it down into points, each one feeling more alien than the last. They…

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Re: Captcha pictures force you to look at the world the way an AI does

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I've read the whole article, and I see so many comments agreeing or even adding detail to the post. Am I really in the minority if this kind of thing couldn't even cross my mind or feels like written by someone living in a parallel universe? A few poorly shot street photos are "unbearably depressing"? And there's even a detailed explanation breaking it down into points, each one feeling more alien than the last. They…

IMHO the author is saying that these pictures represent one way that we humans have surrendered a piece of our lives to a soulless process and machine. Any human with any photography skills would take lively pictures of interesting things, but these pictures have no life and tell no story. What's mildly depressing about this is that we're missing an opportunity to connect more and see more of life. Now, if I were to…

Except the entire point of at least this brand of captcha is to help solve classification problems (or so I thought) and to me doing otherwise seems like a missed opportunity

Re: Captcha pictures force you to look at the world the way an AI does

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> Part of it is the sheer hassle of repeatedly identifying objects — traffic lights, staircases, palm trees and buses — just so I can finish a web search. Does Google ask you to complete a CAPTCHA to run a web search? I've never experienced that - is that a thing?

If you're accessing via a VPN, not logged into a Google account, doing a bunch of searches quickly... absolutely. Basically, the more you appear like you might be trying to scrape Google results or otherwise abuse Google with an unreasonable quantity of requests, it'll ask you to prove you're human and not a bot.

I occasionally get them even while logged in. I assume it's some combination of VPN, browser privacy features, and the browser search shortcut (instead of going through google.com or changing the search from another results page).

Re: Captcha pictures force you to look at the world the way an AI does

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I'd say it's because the North America, car-dominated, strip-mall-and-stroad landscape is depressing as hell. Open a map and drop yourself somewhere in Europe. I just did, and I feel like identifying crosswalks in a photo like this wouldn't be depressing at all: https://i.imgur.com/31AgNvs.png

I wouldn't call the images depressing, but certainly soul crushing.

Re: Captcha pictures force you to look at the world the way an AI does

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Just to share the American perspective, it feels like this: Many people speak English, and thus it is difficult/impossible for people from outside the US to discern the difference between domestic and international services. (Not saying Google is a domestic service obviously.) Through historical chance, we don't have the luxury and benefits of a native language like many of you reading this right now.

I don't really understand what you mean by this. Do you have any example? Is it something like not knowing if an online store is international or domestic? Because in that case we face the same issue, when I see a store in English I'm not sure it'll ship to Europe, and often doesn't.

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Re: Captcha pictures force you to look at the world the way an AI does

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A bot can trivially generate TOTP tokens from a shared secret and receive/process incoming SMS to extract the code.

Then use the fact that I am a paying customer of Hilton’s for years to mark my account as a human. I have the Hilton credit card, I am a Diamond member, what else do they want? I know why they force me though, I use content blockers on macOS and iOS to block tracking and ads, but that is not a good reason.

Can you share those content blockers? I recently acquired my first iOS device and have been suffering through the ads.

Re: Captcha pictures force you to look at the world the way an AI does

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> I was exactly the same way when I was younger. > my emotional awareness was... exceedingly underdeveloped. Are you implying the GP's emotional awareness is "exceedingly underdeveloped" and that they'll grow out of it? > you just haven't had the practice/opportunity to develop this side of things > there absolutely is a reality that you haven't developed skills to see Yes, it does seem like that's what you're saying…

Sorry, that's not what I meant but I can see how it could be interpreted that way. So let me rephrase. I intended the word "underdeveloped" not as a value judgment, just a practical sense -- in the same way my own baseball skills are underdeveloped i.e. nonexistent. If you replace it with "less developed" that might be clearer. I meant it just in the context of the goal of someone trying to understand and relate to t…

Perhaps you've learned to be emotionally hypersensitive to things you sense, while the parent commenter only interprets emotions from emotional contexts, like when people or animals express emotion?

Then again, perhaps anytime two people experience a subjective matter differently, they try to grade each other's ability to experience that matter on an objective scale, with their ability to experience it set at the origin. From the parent commenter's perspective, the article and your response are both emotionally hypersensitive, and from your perspective the parent commenter is "emotionally underdeveloped".

What this all comes down to is that applying an objective scale to a subjective matter doesn't yield anything useful; it only highlights the relative differences of the participants. I've always wondered if it's human nature, or cultural imbuement, to inject competitiveness into something that cannot be competed over. It's obvious that you each see this subjective matter differently. How can either of you possibly think that your subjective viewpoint is correct, without also acknowledging that the other's viewpoint must also be correct to them?

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