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Re: Six corporations control 90% of America media

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Post by wolverine876 » Mon, Aug 02, 2021, 10:38 PM UTC

muglug wrote: post #151

wolverine876 wrote: post #146

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> To believe that there is some dictate about how a story is covered or why that comes from the top is to believe that we are way more organized than reality. I'm pretty sure there are smoking gun memos and insider reports of dictates from the top at News Corp. or at least within Fox News, which they own. Is News Corp. / Fox just a special case?

Largely, yes. Murdoch has a hands-off approach with News Corp — his politics are, if you can believe it, to the left of most Fox News viewers, but it makes shit-tons of money for him. Roger Ailes was the one sending out the memos, the one Murdoch trusted to increase add revenue year after year. The other news channels know their viewers, and don’t want them to change the channel so will avoid topics those viewers mig…

> Roger Ailes was the one sending out the memos

It has continued after Ailes, iirc.

> Murdoch has a hands-off approach with News Corp — his politics are, if you can believe it, to the left of most Fox News viewers

Can you support that? All his outlets have the same politics, including the WSJ (especially their editorial page) and afaik his UK outlets.

Re: Six corporations control 90% of America media

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Post by orestarod » Tue, Aug 03, 2021, 10:55 AM UTC

IIAOPSW wrote: post #135

yann2 wrote: post #112

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Have you heard of Bounded Rationality? There is an upper bound on what the chimp brain can do. No big diff with a group of chimps. There is always an upper bound. Pretending there is no bound leads to a big trap. Its like telling second graders they can solve tenth grade problems. They cant no matter what they are entertained by, how well they built od consensus or how hard they work. All that it archives is make the…

>Its like telling second graders they can solve tenth grade problems. They cant no matter what they are entertained by, how well they built od consensus or how hard they work. Child prodigies exist.

And they're few.

Re: Six corporations control 90% of America media

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Post by eli_gottlieb » Tue, Aug 03, 2021, 1:58 PM UTC

peder wrote: post #145

eli_gottlieb wrote: post #126

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I'm not terrified of having "wrong thoughts", but I do think conspiracy theorizing is dumb because no conspiracy theorist seems able to believe just one conspiracy. Oh, you think COVID was a lab leak, and that global warming is fake? What do you think about the moon landing? Is the government controlled by the Jews or the lizardmen? Why don't you (and this is a purely rhetorical "you") seem to have any limits to your…

That seems like a remarkably poor hereustic

How is a prior a heuristic?