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The journey to controlling external monitors on M1 Macs

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Re: The journey to controlling external monitors on M1 Macs

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Post by mthoms »

watertom wrote: post #158

I just want my 2 external monitors to work, 1 in portrait, the other in landscape in my M1 MacBook Pro. I bought a Pluggable doc, for $300, of course it wasn’t until after I couldn’t get it to work did Pluggable team tell me it wouldn’t work, “a known problem”, which they didn’t disclose. This was 7-8 months ago. I needed the extra ports so I kept the dock, and used both monitors in landscape mode, it killed my produ…

I was able to use one landscape, and one portrait 4k monitor just fine on my M1 mini. One is connected via HDMI and the other via USB-C. Have you tried it without the dock?

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Post by biaachmonkie »

klodolph wrote: post #139
Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> “aimed at a niche market most of us don’t know much about.” Then Apple should have demonstrated the $1000 stand to those niche market separately instead of trying to sell the aspiration of 'Pro' devices to the consumer in an usual consumer event.

Apple didn’t announce it at an event for general consumers, they announced it at WWDC. WWDC is an Apple event, run by Apple, to announce Apple products. Not all Apple products are aimed at general consumers.

Yeah, that's what got me about the announcement, like how could they totally "misread the room" so to speak? At their Developer conference they announce that "overpriced display" ( overpriced for developer audience ). And the $1000 stand was possibly the most tone-deaf product announcement ever from them, just totally the wrong time and place for that.

What I don't get is why they have never just simply taken the 5K display from the iMac and made it a standalone display, Displayport has been able to handle the bandwidth for years now, HDMI can handle it now as well.

Re: The journey to controlling external monitors on M1 Macs

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Post by klodolph »

biaachmonkie wrote: post #182
klodolph wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple didn’t announce it at an event for general consumers, they announced it at WWDC. WWDC is an Apple event, run by Apple, to announce Apple products. Not all Apple products are aimed at general consumers.

Yeah, that's what got me about the announcement, like how could they totally "misread the room" so to speak? At their Developer conference they announce that "overpriced display" ( overpriced for developer audience ). And the $1000 stand was possibly the most tone-deaf product announcement ever from them, just totally the wrong time and place for that. What I don't get is why they have never just simply taken the 5K…

> Yeah, that's what got me about the announcement, like how could they totally "misread the room" so to speak?

I don’t get what is so wrong here.

> What I don't get is why they have never just simply taken the 5K display from the iMac and made it a standalone display, Displayport has been able to handle the bandwidth for years now, HDMI can handle it now as well.

I don’t understand why people want this. You can get a 5K display from other vendors, why do you want one from Apple, specifically?

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Post by brokenmachine »

justin66 wrote: post #155
klodolph wrote: post #140

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Are we still talking about a monitor stand? You can VESA mount the monitor if you don’t want to buy the stand. I think it’s assumed you’d use a third-party VESA mount, and the stand is there as an alternative for the few people who just don’t want that.. As far as I can tell, you can use a standard VESA mount, you don’t need some kind of Apple-specific one.

> As far as I can tell, you can use a standard VESA mount, you don’t need some kind of Apple-specific one. To connect a VESA mount to the magnetic mount on the back of the Pro Display XDR, you would require Apple's $200 VESA mount adapter.

It's dongles all the way down!

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Post by brokenmachine »

smoldesu wrote: post #173
slrz wrote: post #170

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This was never an intended feature. If I understand the article correctly, they were using an undocumented ("private") API which happened to stop working.

Every API is undocumented on MacOS, what do you want them to do? How are you supposed to discern between zombie XNU code and Good LTS Apple Compliant code?

Rule of thumb: if you paid for an official Apple dongle, all related code is LTS (*until said dongle is deprecated on a whim, of course).

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Post by brokenmachine »

GekkePrutser wrote: post #138
dividedbyzero wrote: post #132

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I found putting one of those Philips Hue light strips behind the monitor helped tremendously. If I set its brightness and temperature to a dim warm setting, the dimly-lit wall right behind the monitor makes mid-range screen brightness work just fine (eyes accomodate to the higher overall brightness, so the monitor needs to be brighter to "fit in", but I still perceive the whole scene as dimly-lit) and the color tempe…

That would help indeed, and so does keeping the lights on at a high level. But my 4K is so bright at 0% that it feels too bright for me even with the brightest artificial light I have :) Only in daylight it's OK (and I still keep it at 0% then!). But there is another reason I don't always have lights on. I live in Barcelona where it gets hot in summer and I don't have AC. So at night when the temperature outside is l…

>If I have lights on it attracts bugs. So I stay mainly in the dark.

Get flyscreens?

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Post by ddalex »

wil421 wrote: post #21
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #18

Great write-up and a fun read. I was caught off guard by this note: > the delivery guy called me about a laptop: the custom configured M1 MacBook Pro that costed as much as 7 junior developer monthly salaries has arrived! I tried the MacBook Pro configurator and could only get up to $2300 USD (excluding optional software like Logic Pro). I’m sure the price and taxation are higher in the author’s country, but I still…

The resume on the blog says University of Lasi. Google returned something about Romania so is assume that’s where he is.

Iasi, not Lasi, with a capital I, pronounced like [eeashee], major university centre in Northern Romania.
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