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Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by hbn »

willis936 wrote: post #105

Friendly reminder that old.reddit.com is still up. I deleted the app this morning. Maybe old.reddit.com will be a nicotine patch.

There are decent (free and paid) third-party clients that make Reddit a much nicer experience on mobile. On Android I was a big fan of Sync for Reddit, and on iOS I've been using Apollo.

Every once in a while I'll open up the official client and I'm just blown away at how bad it is. It's constantly trying to get me to watch livestreams of people doing random things unrelated to my interests. Why would I ever want to watch a livestream on reddit?

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by phkahler »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #109
kevincox wrote: post #90

Once upon a time Reddit was a link aggregator. You would post a link and the author would get credit. You could save the link without Reddit. But Reddit is moving towards first party content. Not only has the site added native photo and video upload support but many communities disallow external content. Requiring a reupload or a screenshot. This not only removes the link to the actual creator but is also a nightmare…

> I wonder why sharing of links is so unpopular It’s because the most active parts of Reddit’s user base prefer it this way. Reddit has become about rapid-fire content consumption without leaving the site. Following a link and actually reading an article for 5-10 minutes isn’t as exciting as rapidly consuming a few videos, a few screenshots, and a few self posts along with the top comments for the most interesting on…

>> It’s because the most active parts of Reddit’s user base prefer it this way.

While that may be a common user preference, it's also a strategy at at large companies. Shit, even a small brick and mortar store doesn't want you to leave the store because you may find what you want elsewhere. The web as it started out is the opposite of what any company wants.

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by sangnoir »

skinnymuch wrote: post #133
piva00 wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly, Twitter went through the same process, locking down its API, introducing usage quotas and getting increasingly more hostile towards Twitter clients that circumvented the ad-serving side of it. I remember it was a shitshow at the time, probably around 2012, I worked for a company that was leveraging Twitter's API for a product and we got quite nervous about the hostility.

Yeah. Facebook locking down their stuff earlier than that and then again when they had the perfect excuse because of HN and the media’s relentless attacking of FB for Cambridge Analytica, were both huge blows to any remaining optimism I had. The latter is even worse because Facebook limited their data and APIs which made the app worse...by doing exactly what people on HN and similar places perportedly wanted. There’s…

> Facebook locking down their stuff earlier than that and then again when they had the perfect excuse because of HN and the media’s relentless attacking of FB for Cambridge Analytica

Facebook started locking their stuff way before Cambridge Analytica - I'd say by 5-8 years. Even then, Fb acted like an open platform for games and quizzes, but locked down its social-graph while siphoning Google's (via one-way Messenger-GTalk/XMPP interop). That marked a turning point for Google's attitude towards openness as well, since open vs. closed systems exhibit something similar to the paradox of tolerance: closed systems will take advantage of open systems and smother them out of existence.

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by monocasa »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #139
pbhjpbhj wrote: post #86

Pretty simple explanation, they let the clearly copyright infringing content in to their walled-garden under safe harbour protections, but allowing download is contributory infringement with distribution and there's no hiding from that as they can clearly easily prevent it (as they have). Super hypocritical? Sure. Understandable? Also a yes.

Apollo, one of the best mobile clients for Reddit (highlighted by Apple in the App Store), allows direct download of media from Reddit. If Reddit forces this, I assume browser extensions are the next step that they can’t mitigate. If the browser needs to play it, it can be ripped.

Can they enforce DRM on the videos through EME?

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by Sebb767 »

BoxOfRain wrote: post #110
fffffg wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit is very enthusiastic about handing out site wide bans these days. If you say the wrong thing on the wrong topic you can be permanent banned, whereas before you would just be downvoted or argued with. Same for subreddits being banned. But only when it comes to speech it seems, not picture or video. So, for example, we have the odd case of "truelesbians" subreddit being banned for being trans-exclusive, but "les…

A better example would be what happened with /r/ukpolitics and Aimee Challenor I think, it was a truly shameless display of how incompetent Reddit has become in recent years. The whole episode was an omnishambles, and a perfect microcosm of everything that's wrong with Reddit at the moment. It featured awful hiring practices, awful moderation practices, awful crisis management, awful PR management, and highlighted th…

> A better example would be what happened with /r/ukpolitics and Aimee Challenor I think,

Would you mind expanding on this? I don't follow Reddit dramas any more.

> It will happen one way or another though, one day they'll make a decision too user-hostile and Reddit will have its very own "Digg V4" moment.

I highly doubt that. Reddit has far too much non-techie people, which tend to know less alternatives and don't punish bad design as directly as "we" would. More likely it will be a slow fade to unimportance, like MySpace or Facebook (the platform, not the company).

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Post by Ashanmaril »

discordance wrote: post #98
pantulis wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One thing that amazes with Reddit is how some subreddits are pure gold and others are basically crap.

Sorry if this sounds obvious, but it’s the people within the subs that make it or break it. Some subs just don’t have those active people that make it gold.

Bad moderation can also drive away good people and good discussion.

I still tend to keep up with most Android news on /r/android but the mods there went super full crackdown on moderation the past several years, constantly removing threads for minor infractions of the rules, and breaking up good discussion in the comments section of a post because the OP was breaking some rule or another.

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by RileyJames »

nicbou wrote: post #3

When a company grows large enough, the APIs and user-generated tools that propelled its growth get treated like a threat. They tend to vertically integrate and keep anyone from using their data.

Seen this first hand.

In the Twitter example, I understand the direct conflict with revenue, but it still seems like a bad long term play.

But I’ve also seen this in B2B, where the API enhanced growth, reduced churn, enabled sales and didn’t compete with subscription revenue.

But new wigs in the business wanted to chase something new.

And copying (and then restricting, as opposed to competing) API use cases became the low hanging fruit.

In the end it was shortermism, most of the wigs only stay for 2 years, and the cost to the business plays out on a longer timescale.

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by toomuchtodo »

monocasa wrote: post #184
toomuchtodo wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apollo, one of the best mobile clients for Reddit (highlighted by Apple in the App Store), allows direct download of media from Reddit. If Reddit forces this, I assume browser extensions are the next step that they can’t mitigate. If the browser needs to play it, it can be ripped.

Can they enforce DRM on the videos through EME?

Maybe, depends on the amount of effort they want to put into it. Right now, if I recall, they're just dumping the uploaded content into an S3 bucket and serving it back out (reddit-uploaded-media.s3-accelerate.amazonaws.com).

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by [deleted] »

autoexec wrote: post #48
BoxOfRain wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Now when they remove a video for "violating content guidelines" This is why I'm keeping an offline digital music collection for the first time in over a decade, it's because I'm sick of this kind of behaviour from record labels. Their attitudes of deleting things on a whim as though they never existed pissed me off to the point I don't see streaming services as a viable means of keeping my music any more.

The MPA/RIAA are one of the greatest threats to the internet in general right now. They are constantly pushing for more and more power, making greater and greater demands of ISPs and hosting companies. Even now that a global pandemic has demonstrated how essential internet access has become to our lives courts seem quite happy to insist that ISPs permanently ban people based on nothing more than unsubstantiated claim…

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Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by rchaud »

willis936 wrote: post #105

Friendly reminder that old.reddit.com is still up. I deleted the app this morning. Maybe old.reddit.com will be a nicotine patch.

Unless you click on a Reddit link while inside of old.reddit.com; it will then take you to that page, but show you the default 'modern' theme. Same content, just 10x slower.
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