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The new Apple TV 4K is a absolutely better than any of the high end android tv devices. I’ve been through them all (at considerable expense) and am now totally happy on the new apple tv

I've been looking into getting one, but my one hangup is still the lack of audio passthrough support. I have some UHD disks that I've digitized and without passthrough, the Atmos metadata will be lost on playback.

I found this: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204069

Is there something I'm missing?

Re: Reviews of Android TV launcher after Google added ads to the homescreen

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The new Apple TV 4K is a absolutely better than any of the high end android tv devices. I’ve been through them all (at considerable expense) and am now totally happy on the new apple tv

Can you watch porn on that? Can you stream random online media? Really curious, I do things on my TV I don't see working in a typical apple eco system

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Google, Microsoft, Apple, Facebook - we power their abuses with our money. Just stop buying their trash. Support open hardware, free and open source software.

Very difficult to do when it comes to entertainment. Almost all streaming services have locked down DRM that makes running open source software very difficult. (I know someone will say “just pirate it then!” but even putting moral obligations aside that’s still not realistic for the average viewer)

I don’t believe there is any coherent moral argument against piracy in the face of such hostile tactics from media companies.

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If history has taught us anything: this will blow over in a few weeks or months and everyone will get used to it in the end. The small percentage of users who (sometimes only temporarily) stop using the service is offset by the new income and the majority of users do not care.

> this will blow over in a few weeks or months and everyone will get used to it in the end. After seeing screen after screen of one-star reviews, I'm not sure this one will just blow over. People are very, very unhappy with the update.

It's a bit skewed since it's a default system installed app and people generally aren't going to rate it unless they are unhappy but hopefully it doesn't blow over. I agree that there are a lot of people who are unhappy (including myself).

Re: Reviews of Android TV launcher after Google added ads to the homescreen

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post #171

I ran into this last week on my nvidia shield. Here's a summary of the workaround I found (apologies for not having the specific package names offhand): 1. Install a new launcher from play store (I found one called "Basic Launcher" that matches the aesthetics of the default one). This doesn't solve the problem though, because Google disabled changing the default launcher for some user hostile reason, until you delete…

>I manged to remove them...you go to All apps..scroll down to "Show system apps"...Android TV Home...Force stop... Uninstall updates => You will have old Home Screen https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/shield-tv/9/4579...

I looked through this thread when searching for a workaround but this method didn't work for me (2019 Shield TV Pro), I had to swap the launcher.

Re: Reviews of Android TV launcher after Google added ads to the homescreen

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post #178

I can't see the reviews, probably because I am in a European country. What do they say?

They are all negative 1-star reviews complaining about a new giant banner that takes up a third of the home screen.

Google did the same thing to the iOS YouTube app recently.

Re: Reviews of Android TV launcher after Google added ads to the homescreen

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post #49

The new Apple TV 4K is a absolutely better than any of the high end android tv devices. I’ve been through them all (at considerable expense) and am now totally happy on the new apple tv

It's nearly perfect now that they've fixed the remote, and absolutely the device to beat at the moment. Most of the "channel" apps are also very nice, the exception being Amazon's clunky Prime Video app. The Plex client is quite good too.

> Most of the "channel" apps are also very nice, the exception being Amazon's clunky Prime Video app.

To be fair, I've not seen any other platform where Prime Video's interface isn't terrible, and that's including Fire-whatevers. Been that way for years. I guess it's working OK for them, since they don't seem inclined to fix it. In particular, they probably regard making it hard to tell whether something's free-with-Prime or pay-per-view until the moment you choose whether to play it, as a feature.

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post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's only one correct answer: https://kodi.tv/ Works fine, but it is not the most stable software. Plenty of add-ons and themes, and (probably the reason why it's popular) you can sideload some pirate TV add-ons.

Aren't most of those add-ons depending on real-debrid now, meaning a $5/month subscription? Why not Netflix then?

No? Not the Kodi I have at least, it feels like a huge open source community with many clunky but usually working apps.

Re: Reviews of Android TV launcher after Google added ads to the homescreen

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

there's nothing wrong with ads on stuff like this; televisions aren't sacred ground.

Super wrong. Google sold one product then removed functionality after sale. That's very illegal.

A good parallel is the recent Peloton Treadmill update (as a result of the CPSC suit). You used to be able to use the treadmill without video content, it worked as a treadmill; you only had to pay for a subscription if you wanted Peloton content on the screen. This seems fairly obvious to anyone buying the device, and makes sense. I buy a treadmill, I can use the treadmill forever, but if i want content, I pay a monthly fee.

When they push a software update that makes the treadmill unusable without the subscription, now you're tied to not only paying for the service (at whatever price they decide that week), but you're also tied to the company itself continuing to exist and OFFER content.

A bunch of lawsuits have been filed, I'm sure it'll be reverted to 'the way it was' soon. (I honestly believe it was a largely clumsy move in trying to quickly tie a PIN code to the software to keep kids/unauthorized users from turning it on).

But it's a parallel here. My Google TV device might show ads on the TV network, but you pay for the device to not get ads on the home screen like the awful Fire Stick I have. (every time you hit 'play' to try to unpause a program, you are actually hitting 'play' on the terrible ad they gave you).

Re: Reviews of Android TV launcher after Google added ads to the homescreen

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Question to HN users: I have a dumb display attached to an nvidia shield. The Shield is nice: It's powerful enough, runs decent version of the common apps I care about (netflix, plex, youtube, spotify are the ones I use), and the remote is minimalistic and nice to use. Let's say I want to opt out of Google for this. What the hell do I do? I do have a Windows PC attached to the TV, for gaming, but if I wanted to run t…

LG WebOS has all this, except Spotify which was there but is gone now.
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