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Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Windows 11 will be a free upgrade: https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/24/22546801/microsoft-window...

Looks like that news just came out. Glad to hear it. Now let's hope it's an automatic upgrade for as many Windows 10 users as possible.

Let's not, because I have no interest in windows 11 from what I've heard so far.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Windows 11 will be a free upgrade: https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/24/22546801/microsoft-window...

Looks like that news just came out. Glad to hear it. Now let's hope it's an automatic upgrade for as many Windows 10 users as possible.

Let's hope not, thank you.

It's one thing to force an update that just makes background improvements. It's another thing entirely to force a UI update that breaks your workflow.

Most of us just got the people we support used to the new design now they're going to up and change it completely again.

My Grandmother has basically given up using the computer because she doesn't have the mental energy to relearn a UI every time some MBA comes along wanting to "disrupt" the status quo.

It's basically akin to the company that manufactures your car showing up at your house while you're sleeping, moving the steering wheel to the center of the car, re-arranging buttons on the console, blacking out two of the windows because it looks cool, then leaving a nice little note on your front porch: "We upgraded your car, it's so much better!"

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With huge monitors becoming the norm, having important click targets aligned to corners makes little sense.

It doesn’t? Because I think it’s easier to throw the cursor at the absolute corner of the screen and click rather than have to carefully select a button somewhere along the X axis. Just a thought, I’m a macOS user myself.

I use both windows and mac and I agree. It's why I hate that the menu bar on mac can't be moved (it clashes with the window buttons), and why I don't ever use the dock (I cmd+space for spotlight instead). Hopefully this is customizable

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You can move it back to the corner in the settings.

But why the change at all? I wonder what their user story for this one was.

I have wondered that too, I don't like the look of the new taskbar, I was hoping they'd do more with it with some of the user concepts floating around (such as a rounded floating taskbar.) I'm sure the true reason is that is what MacOS does, so they just copied it.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Hmm, nice improvements, but is it just me who doesn’t care about them at all? Most of them feels like change just for the sake of change, but not an actual improvement.

Not you, re not alone, and some of them (like no local accounts) seem like a step backward.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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I wish MS stopped doing redesign of their interfaces every couple of years and just fixed the broken stuff the introduced somewhere along the way. - Settings / control panel inconsistency and the other dozen places you can change configs for a single thing - Telemetry, ads and system crap - Package management and sandboxing And the list goes on.

Most of those are actually features.

1. Old control panels: Drivers may overlay or modify the window, so you can't really change them (don't forget: Windows supports many obscure devices like DAWs and heavy machinery, many things Linux users have never even considered connecting to a PC, and all of those have custom drivers from the device manufacturer that Microsoft doesn't control)

2. Telemetry, ads: Yes, this is a serious "bug" that Microsoft needs to fix, how do they keep accidentally adding fully-featured invasive telemetry and ad platforms into their OS? I guess that's what copying code from StackOverflow gets you!

3. Package management: NuGet?

4. Sandboxing: All modern OSs support lots of sandboxing options, not sure what you mean by this

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> lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? I didn’t watch the video, and your question mark gives me hope: Was this actually said? A horizontal taskbar would be horrible.

You have been able to move the task bar to left/right screen edges for years. If your task bar is not locked, just click and drag it to the window edges. A feature to Left align the buttons has been shown in the leaked builds.

Correct you can left align the buttons but there is no longer settings related to locking the taskbar and dragging it does nothing in the leaked build.

Hopefully that changes however with the new widgets fly-in from the left side it may be locked to the bottom similar to the dock on iOS.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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So to summerize what they have announced (so far) - * A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? * A new start menu design * Windows have rounded corners * Some built in apps such as the Xbox app and Microsoft Store have been redesigned (Xbox Game Pass and xCloud built into the Xbox app) * New touch keyboard (SwiftKey?) with improved…

> A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup Looks like I'll be skipping windows 11 and any future windows iterations if this is unavoidable

just get Pro

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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post #94

So to summerize what they have announced (so far) - * A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? * A new start menu design * Windows have rounded corners * Some built in apps such as the Xbox app and Microsoft Store have been redesigned (Xbox Game Pass and xCloud built into the Xbox app) * New touch keyboard (SwiftKey?) with improved…

> A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup Looks like I'll be skipping windows 11 and any future windows iterations if this is unavoidable

I tend to avoid accounts as much as possible but this seems a juvenile response. Do you use a smartphone?
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