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Firefox Release 89.0

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Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by mrweasel »

duped wrote: post #170
kevincox wrote: post #10

Does anyone feel that this new UI brings notable improvement? I don't think it is much worse, other than taking some extra vertical space but for the most part my reaction is "meh". I feel like these resources could have been spent much better in other parts of the browser. Am I missing some reason why this is worth the investment?

The tabs are more compact than they used to be

Really? They seem much bigger, like twice the size.

I don’t dislike them as much as I initially did. They’re just a little to big on low resolution monitor.

Personally I’d like to see browsers move away from trying to be “special” and just follow the design of operating system. A little tricky on Linux, but for Windows and macOS just follow the guidelines from Microsoft and Apple.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by zxter »

matsemann wrote: post #90
csmpltn wrote: post #24

> "We’ve redesigned and modernized the core experience to be cleaner, more inviting, and easier to use." Why does the UI change with every single Firefox release? I find myself having to re-adjust every time a new update is shipped. What's wrong with having a consistent experience that survives for more than 6 months? It's just a URL bar, and a bunch of tabs. Just leave it be already.

> Why does the UI change with every single Firefox release? It doesn't. Maybe small parts of it get tweaks here and there. But your argument about having to re-adjust every update is just dishonest.

It does. As you said they are small and maybe you don't notice, but for some of us, it may mess up our muscle memory. I believe parent poster's honesty because in every update, trying to change back new UI elements is really annoying. Worse, some of them cannot be reverted. You have to adjust yourself to a libre software's changes.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by makecheck »

sirn wrote: post #154
ivanche wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since you've already mentioned it - I hear that Firefox has non-native context menus all the time, but for the life of me couldn't tell any difference between "native" and "non-native" context menus. Anybody has any proof/example of this?

https://files.grid.in.th/vKeXJQ.png It looks close, but details and behavior are a bit off. For example: - Firefox context menu does not respect system's dark mode - Different horizontal and vertical margins between items - Different font rendering (e.g. text looks bolder) - Different right caret icon For behavior difference, for example: when navigating sub-menu items, macOS uses cursor velocity and cursor direction…

And on Big Sur, the old Firefox menus were still using edge-to-edge rectangular selection but the system ones now use rounded-rectangles that appear to detach from the edges.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by pantulis »

ironMonkey wrote: post #126

I update and the Mac's native sharing is gone. Wondering if the company employs product managers responsible for Mac features (i know it's complex to handle various capabilities for different OS versions) because i assume a storm of negative feedback is coming.

What!? This makes it unusable for me.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by bla3 »

Whoa, Firefox is suddenly good now!

I give it a try every now and then, but somehow it never sticks. Random perf hangups, keyboard shortcuts not working like I'm used to, but this time I didn't run into anything obvious yet. Hm, now that I write this, Ctrl-A/Ctrl-E are wrong: They're supposed to jump to start of logical line, not visual line on macOS, and Firefox gets this wrong. But it took a lot longer until I ran into an inconsistency like this.

The UI looks a lot less clunky than I remember.

Nice job, Mozilla! Keep working on OS integration :)

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by shaan7 »

open-source-ux wrote: post #145

Random Firefox UI observations: - Tabs have been redesigned to look like buttons. Why? Surely altering the appearance of an interface component or control to reflect something it isn't is basic UX 101? And why remove the outline of non-selected tabs? Isn't "affordance" of components also UX 101? - Themes: Isn't one of the goals for a web browser to minimise the "chrome" (the toolbars, tabs, status bar) so that as muc…

> Tabs have been redesigned to look like buttons

Exactly! The tabs are no longer "attached" to the page, my brain sees them as two different things now -.-

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by xedrac »

I suspect that a large percentage of Firefox's remaining user base are power users - people who tend to value function over fluff. It seems odd to me that they'd alienate their current users like this. I've used Firefox for over 10 years, but I think I'll start using chromium until the next Firefox UI overhaul. The tab design is just unacceptably awful.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by Merem »

Hamuko wrote: post #63
arrayjumper wrote: post #56

I don't like the removal of tab separators. Now all the background tabs kind of merge into one large mega tab :( for example - https://i.ibb.co/p4LWvtb/2021-06-01-19-12-43-3841x169.png

The lack of tab separators and the poor contrast between the tab bar and the rest of the chrome are my biggest issues. Chrome has both tab separators and higher contrast between the tab section and the rest. And of course, the old Firefox design also has tab separators and very high contrast.

You mean like this? https://abload.de/img/tabp1jaa.png
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