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Temptation of the Apple: Dolphin on macOS M1

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Re: Temptation of the Apple: Dolphin on macOS M1

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Post by enraged_camel »

ActorNightly wrote: post #167
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #66

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Like everything in technology, you have a choice. If you want openness at the expense of security and privacy, you can purchase an Android or Windows device. If you want security and privacy more than openness, you buy an iPhone. The Hacker News crowd is unique in that we want to have our cake and eat it too by making the iPhone work more like Android and expressing outrage that such a choice exists. So even though I…

I still dont get how people pretend Apple cares about privacy. By default Apple devices phone home and collect data on you, and this is not optional, and they will hand that data to law enforcement. They also have the ability to change their data handling policieson a whim since there is nobody holding them accountable. THIS IS NOT PRIVACY. Not that windows or android devices are better as they come out of the box, b…

This is a lot of FUD. Yes, Apple devices do collect some data and phone it home (mostly diagnostic, and iCloud, both of which can be turned off). However, unlike their competitors, Apple does not sell this data to advertisers. And they are just as likely to refuse to work with law enforcement as they are likely to cooperate. How many times has LE demanded that Apple break the encryption on the iPhone of a crime suspect? How many times has LE demanded that Apple install backdoors and hand them the keys, only to be told to screw off?

Yes, Windows and Android devices give users more control. But that is because their business models are totally different. We all know that Google is primarily an ad-tech company, and that Android is how they collect the data for those ads. And while a technically savvy person may be able to lock down their devices, that's just a minority of users we're talking about.

Apple's data collection is a murmur compared to the deafening screech of that of Google.

Re: Temptation of the Apple: Dolphin on macOS M1

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Post by xrd »

fulafel wrote: post #161
xrd wrote: post #124

Where is the Linux ARM equivalent laptop? When I read about Pine laptops, it never seems like they tout the amazing performance like the M1.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/04/apple-m1-hardware-su...

That's interesting, but I don't want to buy apple hardware. When I buy an Apple product, I'm paying for the integration the software and all the other stuff in addition to the hardware. That's a steep tax. I just want an arm chip performance and free software on top of it

Re: Temptation of the Apple: Dolphin on macOS M1

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Post by vcxy »

dylan604 wrote: post #149
fooqux wrote: post #44

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> many of us don’t want our iPads or iPhones to be like our computers And many of us do . I would never buy a locked-down piece of hardware like that. But I don't think it matters either way what either side wants, because it's what Apple wants that matters. They want to keep their walled garden's walls air tight, and there are apparently enough people that are OK living in that garden that it works. I'm positive tha…

>I would never buy a locked-down piece of hardware like that Do you own an Xbox or Playstation? Do you own a SmartTV?

I'm not who you replied to, but I find this interesting. It seems like you're asking rhetorically, but the answer for me is no. I expect I'm not alone.

I do own an old Kindle Paperwhite, which I assume is fairly locked down? I'm not actually sure.

Re: Temptation of the Apple: Dolphin on macOS M1

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Post by djrogers »

xrd wrote: post #124

Where is the Linux ARM equivalent laptop? When I read about Pine laptops, it never seems like they tout the amazing performance like the M1.

> Where is the Linux ARM equivalent laptop?

There isn't one. Apple's silicon team is at least 1-2 years ahead of all the other ARM vendors when looking at mobile performance, and none of those vendors are even trying to do anything in the desktop space (yet).

Re: Temptation of the Apple: Dolphin on macOS M1

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Post by frosted-flakes »

squeaky-clean wrote: post #163
tw04 wrote: post #129

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>If you do that, guess what Fortnite would do right now. Guess what Facebook would do to get around Apple’s privacy restrictions right now. Guess what a ex-boyfriend would do right now to install a blocked spying app. I guess I don't get your point, if a user wants to sideload fortnite or facebook, good for them? If an ex-boyfriend has your phone and your password you've probably got bigger issues than whether or not…

I think their point is the users would not get the choice to "want" to sideload. Fornite, Facebook, etc would pull themselves from the App Store and be sideload-only. Forcing users to choose between the security of their device, or their favorite games and social media apps.

Epic tried that on Android. It didn't work so well, so now they're back on the App store.

Re: Temptation of the Apple: Dolphin on macOS M1

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Post by djrogers »

xrd wrote: post #182
fulafel wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/04/apple-m1-hardware-su...

That's interesting, but I don't want to buy apple hardware. When I buy an Apple product, I'm paying for the integration the software and all the other stuff in addition to the hardware. That's a steep tax. I just want an arm chip performance and free software on top of it

The M1 doesn't smoke Intel chips just because it's ARM - the latest chips from Broadcom and Samsung don't even come close. The M1 is good because it's good.

Re: Temptation of the Apple: Dolphin on macOS M1

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Post by nicolapcweek94 »

handrous wrote: post #120
easton wrote: post #46

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From the link: "Preliminary testing on iOS 14 seems to indicate that Apple has changed the kernel so that this trick no longer works." This is why the iPad needs a way to disable SIP (and the additional security features) just like the Mac. I could give a heck about the iPhone, to be honest, there's maybe one time in my life being able to JIT Python or whatever would've been useful on my phone. But they advertise the…

> But they advertise the iPad as a computer, and yet their software restrictions make it a portable TV. That's not at all true. It's not useful for some subset of what certain geeks want to use it for. It's very useful for all the other things a highly portable computer hooked up to a bunch of really cool sensors and a very capable peripherals ecosystem is. Ordinarily I'm all for arguments that we, as an industry (so…

Besides, I don't get the whole "can't do geek things on an iPad". I have an iPad Pro 2017 and I've:

- Run full linux on it (both emulated X86 and via WASM magic, via A-Shell and iSH, both on the App Store)

- Coded Python, C#, Javascript and Lua on it (via Pythonista, Continuous, Scriptable and Codea) _and_ ran the code on the iPad itself

- Wrote blog posts for my old static site and pushed them to a git repo to publish them (via iA Writer for writing and Working Copy for Git)

- Connected via SSH and RDP to "real computers" (via the Remote Desktop app and Blink!, though there's many SSH clients on the AS)

- Used SFTP to transfer files to/from said computers/servers (via Secure Shellfish)

There's also an entire class of apps built upon the Shortcuts model, that allows you to extend and improve upon the Shortcuts (née Workflow, third party now first party) "coding model", which is very powerful and heavily integrated with the device and Apple services - though very different from "traditional" coding.

Is it a limited platform? Yes, absolutely.

Is it a general purpose computer? Yes, most definitely.

Can you do "geeky things" on it? Well, I've been doing them for years.

Can you run a full UNIX-like dev environment on it? Well, yes, with tricks. But why would you want to, when there's plenty of options that do it 1) natively 2) better? Use an iPad for what its purpose is, not for what a Mac's purpose is.

Re: Temptation of the Apple: Dolphin on macOS M1

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Post by peoplefromibiza »

Synaesthesia wrote: post #166
ninjinxo wrote: post #67

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Whilst very impressive, it's a bit exaggerated, they should have been locked to the same framerate for comparison: * 9900k is boosting to 5ghz which is sacrificing efficiency. * 9900k PC is delivering a much higher framerate, so it'd also have much higher GPU utilisation. * Afaik RTX3090 will have high power draw even at low utilisation (large card, lots of memory). From anandtech: >Should users be interested, in our…

Well that actually shows how impressive the M1 is because it hits faster CPU than the 9900k at 5ghz using only 10W-20W total. And GPU it's much faster than the Intel integrated.

As I understand it, OP is annoyed by the graph because they are comparing different things at different scale.

I will use another John Deere metaphor: a Prius can cover a much longer distance on the same amount of fuel, but if I need a John Deere it's because the Prius can't do the same job and I am willing to sacrifice fuel efficiency for raw power.

In other words: how much more does the i9 consumes to produce the same FPS of an M1?

We don't know, but we know power consumption increase on these CPUs is non linear, meaning that the 60-65% of the frame rate could potentially lead to 5-6 times less energy used.

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