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How are they worth anything when this sets the standard that the work is worth $0? If anything this moves the needle down on what you can earn later.
The Super Bowl doesn't pay the halftime performer. How are they worth anything?
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>I think unpaid internships being socially acceptable is one of the roots of this insidious habit. When I worked with interns they were all paid... but every one was more time and expense to work with than any value they provided. In weeks they accomplished what I could do in an afternoon, and we spent WAY more than an afternoon of work with them. Amazingly many seemed to have a very high opinion of their productivit…
No HR person would allow unpaid intern positions in 2021. It's very clearly illegal in the United States. When I mentor college students, the only times we hear about unpaid internships are: 1) Unfunded wannabe startups or small family businesses who don't understand what they need, but they assume they can convince some naive kid to do it for free. No one with actual skills or prospects takes these jobs. Job boards…
There is a fundamental issue with the 'portfolio' careers. Because of how subjective it is, the prestige of the client becomes an inseparable component of the quality of the work. Your amazing logo for Pat's Cosmetics will be given less cachet than that same exact logo for Procter & Gamble. Conversely, a coder's amazing video encoder will likely give that coder credibility no matter who it was written for.
Fundamentally, it seems there either isn't a notable difference between, say, very good wedding photography and superlative wedding photography OR the average person isn't sophisticated enough to discern the difference.
So, for someone who isn't established enough to already be booked up with regular clients, it's hard to see this as anything but a big opportunity for that dirty word, exposure.
I might get downvoted for that, I still gonna say it: That might be due to the demand-supply situation in photography. They probably will find photographers doing this for the promotion effect described in the email.
This is less about "can" and more about "should". It's bad for everybody when professionals work "for publicity" or are encouraged to do so, despite the relative innocence of the professional who chooses to do so. For the least subtle take on this possible, see: https://youtu.be/mj5IV23g-fE
This will be an unpopular opinion, but I am feeling chatty today. As long as safety + working conditions are not cruel and unusual, and someone is willing to work for $0, why are you trying to stop (or hide) that fact? Someone willing to work for less (or for free) is offering a bargain to incentivize giving him/her the business or the benefit of experience instead of more $. You restricting them from doing that does…
The problem with this is that it creates lots of equity issues. How exactly are poor people supposed to get into government if the entry level positions (internships) are unpaid?
Now if you want to discuss the preposterousness of the lower end of some government pay scales - game on!
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How are they worth anything when this sets the standard that the work is worth $0? If anything this moves the needle down on what you can earn later.
The Super Bowl doesn't pay the halftime performer. How are they worth anything?
This will be an unpopular opinion, but I am feeling chatty today. As long as safety + working conditions are not cruel and unusual, and someone is willing to work for $0, why are you trying to stop (or hide) that fact? Someone willing to work for less (or for free) is offering a bargain to incentivize giving him/her the business or the benefit of experience instead of more $. You restricting them from doing that does…
That's already kind of what's happening. Pay is absolute dogshit for journalists, many low level entertainment industry gigs, so it's overwhelmingly staffed by trust fund kids who have their parents subsidize the lifestyle.
The US continues to support unpaid work in a pretty major way. I think unpaid internships being socially acceptable is one of the roots of this insidious habit. They've been illegal up here in Canada for a while and it hasn't really caused any economic disasters. It'd be a good change to advocate for down there as well. And, honestly, internships aren't free for companies unless there is literally nothing of value be…
1 - https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/fact-sheets/71-flsa-interns...
I might get downvoted for that, I still gonna say it: That might be due to the demand-supply situation in photography. They probably will find photographers doing this for the promotion effect described in the email.
This is less about "can" and more about "should". It's bad for everybody when professionals work "for publicity" or are encouraged to do so, despite the relative innocence of the professional who chooses to do so. For the least subtle take on this possible, see: https://youtu.be/mj5IV23g-fE
So should people not be allowed to write on a personal blog or in an online publication for the public exposure/other knock-on effects relevant to their day job? Because all those people are, at some level, competing with freelancers and other writers.
(I've actually had conversations with professional writers about this. Their general take is that ship has sailed.)
Now, to be clear, organizations trying to get you to do something that you're typically paid to do is absolutely a pox. But there's a difference between a consultant being asked to give a free presentation at an event "for the exposure" and doing so voluntarily because they've made their own decision that it's a worthwhile investment in lead generation or whatever.
To give a personal example, last year I published a new edition of a book. It wasn't for free but it might as well have been in terms of earnings per hour, but I actually wanted to do that. But if you want me to write something for your corporate blog, you're absolutely paying me and paying me pretty well.
If photographers are mad, they should accept the gig and then take horrible photos. Let em get what they paid for.