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Is your son a computer hacker? (2001)

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Re: Is your son a computer hacker? (2001)

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Post by lrvick »

In the early 00s my hyper conservative helicopter parents found my Livejournal where they discovered I was into "hacking" and social activities they didn't approve of.

They eventually confronted me and said I must have all internet postings passed through them in the future, or shut it all down.

What they didn't realize is the modem PCI card in their desktop was a LAN-over-RJ12 card hooked through the walls directly to my machine where I maintained the always on dialup connection and served it to them.

I had a complete MITM on all their internet traffic.

After their demands were made, I simply served them fake copies of all my online web presences that revealed final messages that I was closing them down to respect the wishes of my parents.

The rest of the world saw the continually updated versions, and I was never caught.

Now I work in infosec.

Re: Is your son a computer hacker? (2001)

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Post by cyberpunk »

Hydraulix989 wrote: post #154
cyberpunk wrote: post #24

Ahahahaha. I remember (vaguely) pinging AOL's irc servers with hays cmdset commands and as a result my parents getting a letter to the effect that I was a computer criminal and we were on some 'blacklist' forever, fortunately this apparently blacklist didn't seem to be shared between ISPs so I was back causing chaos within days >_ And now here I am, mid thirties, children, and I wonder if I would let my kid play DOOM…

I'm not a parent (yet), but I do wonder about how I would enforce some of the double standards -- I was playing DOOM at age 8 and looking at somewhat questionable content online (my parents had no idea), and I like to think that I still turned out somewhat fine. Would I really want to use my hacker-grade computer knowledge to enforce a parental control jail on my childrens' ability to consume this meaningful informat…

That’s the dilemma right, I had no filters… I mean, I had the anarchists cookbook at 11, people are being jailed in .co.Uk for possession of that these days.. I have the best intentions, but any kind of censorship is the antithesis of what I had growing up, and so the question becomes: I got that level of access to information because my parents had no idea what information was out there, and it spawned a lifelong interest in tech, infosec, and learning. So if I want my kid to have roughly the same, but yet I know there are also such things as pedos and brainwashing message boards, can i in good conscience let my little dude have the same level of access?

I mean, things have changed a bit. I would absolutely let him on the internet of my youth, but the internet of today is massively different..

I don’t have an answer for this yet…

Re: Is your son a computer hacker? (2001)

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Post by cyberpunk »

ldoughty wrote: post #172
Hydraulix989 wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not a parent (yet), but I do wonder about how I would enforce some of the double standards -- I was playing DOOM at age 8 and looking at somewhat questionable content online (my parents had no idea), and I like to think that I still turned out somewhat fine. Would I really want to use my hacker-grade computer knowledge to enforce a parental control jail on my childrens' ability to consume this meaningful informat…

My own plan: shield them until they are old enough to understand the concepts of trust and respect.. then pull back the safety net, but maintain quiet vigilance (like montoring (read only) the dns queries or system logs, and maybe keep access time window restrictions). If that really want questionable content, it will be cat and mouse game. Build trust and respect... Give them enough rope to hang themselves... Occasi…

That’s one thing I decided already not to do is spy on them. I could easily view his entire online life and sure maybe it would protect him somehow if he was getting into some really dark porn or talking to some pedophile or something, but it’s such a massive invasion of privacy I think I could never forgive myself and the justification is bullshit.

There are no shortcuts to good parenting, spying on your kids traffic is a massive intrusion into their life.

I hope at least to get to the point where they can talk to me about weird shit going on instead of me having to detect it for them right?

Re: Is your son a computer hacker? (2001)

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Post by cyberpunk »

Enginerrrd wrote: post #171
kaybe wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have to say, as a kid, all these games and movies were much more harmless than the news. The news had actual blood on the streets, from real people who had actually died there, real violence, real panic, real bombs and real war. If you shut off the TV, it does not go away, it's taking place somewhere out there, in the real world. A game is a joke in comparison.

I don't worry about games for those reasons, I worry about them because they're extremely seductive and attention-capturing while producing almost no real benefits or skills. I quit video games cold turkey around the age of 16 after I realized that soo often, I'd find myself sit down to play counterstrike after school, and in a blink of an eye it would be 1AM.

That’s a pretty hardcore level of self awareness to have at 16, you must be crushing it :)

Re: Is your son a computer hacker? (2001)

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Post by p1necone »

ro_bit wrote: post #34
bamey wrote: post #27

>If your son has requested a new "processor" from a company called "AMD", this is genuine cause for alarm. AMD is a third-world based company who make inferior, "knock-off" copies of American processor chips. They use child labor extensively in their third world sweatshops, and they deliberately disable the security features that American processor makers, such as Intel, use to prevent hacking. AMD chips are never so…

So this is what the CPUBenchmark authors wrote before making CPUBenchmark

Userbenchmark is so bizarre. I really want to know who's running it and what their motives are for being so blatantly disingenuous.

The best theory I've got is that the owners were shorting AMD stock before it became obvious that they were serious competition again, and now they're using their reach to spread as much FUD as possible to claw some of their money back. But they come off as such idiotic hacks, I'm not sure that theory really makes any sense.

Re: Is your son a computer hacker? (2001)

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Post by aasasd »

codeulike wrote: post #153

8. Is your son obsessed with "Lunix"? BSD, Lunix, Debian and Mandrake are all versions of an illegal hacker operation system, invented by a Soviet computer hacker named Linyos Torovoltos, before the Russians lost the Cold War. ... Lunix is extremely dangerous software, and cannot be removed without destroying part of your hard disk surface.

Meanwhile Windows is all too happy about overwriting any bootloader you may have with its own, if you happen to run its installation or, I think, even some disk-checking programs (don't remember if only `format` did it, or something `chkdsk`-related too).

Re: Is your son a computer hacker? (2001)

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Post by treeman79 »

cyberpunk wrote: post #183
ldoughty wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My own plan: shield them until they are old enough to understand the concepts of trust and respect.. then pull back the safety net, but maintain quiet vigilance (like montoring (read only) the dns queries or system logs, and maybe keep access time window restrictions). If that really want questionable content, it will be cat and mouse game. Build trust and respect... Give them enough rope to hang themselves... Occasi…

That’s one thing I decided already not to do is spy on them. I could easily view his entire online life and sure maybe it would protect him somehow if he was getting into some really dark porn or talking to some pedophile or something, but it’s such a massive invasion of privacy I think I could never forgive myself and the justification is bullshit. There are no shortcuts to good parenting, spying on your kids traffi…

Tried that for a time with eldest daughter. Afterwards she went down hill fast.

Tried looking into what she had been up to. Burned the dammed phone.

Re: Is your son a computer hacker? (2001)

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Post by p1necone »

jchw wrote: post #175
exciteabletom wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you mean the Intel shill site userbenchmark.com? https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/AMD-Ryzen-9-5900X/Rating/4087

I was not gonna comment, but wow, they really are not backing down. From their Intel vs AMD value page: > We don't > Put lipstick on pigs for sponsorship fees, our users are our only sponsors. > Care for brands: red, green or blue. PC hardware isn’t a fashion show, performance comes first. > Test at 1440p or 4K: high resolutions are rarely optimal for gaming (refresh rate > size > resolution). > Get fooled by the cor…

> Test at 1440p or 4K: high resolutions are rarely optimal for gaming (refresh rate > size > resolution).

This point especially is such nonsense. If you're only gaming at 1080p you don't even need to be looking at benchmarks, just go buy literally any current midrange GPU and enjoy your capped 144fps in esports and like 80+ in AAA games.

Their obsession with "benchmarking with the most popular games" is silly for the same reason - there's no point in comparing a top end GPU or CPU on Fortnite or CS:GO performance, because stuff that costs half as much already caps out the max framerate on a 144hz monitor on those games. (Of course there are CS:GO pros who are trying to get absurd FPS for competitive reasons, but that's a tiny fraction of players, most people aren't going to care about the difference between 300fps and 400fps on a 144hz monitor).

Re: Is your son a computer hacker? (2001)

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Post by Teknoman117 »

p1necone wrote: post #188
jchw wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was not gonna comment, but wow, they really are not backing down. From their Intel vs AMD value page: > We don't > Put lipstick on pigs for sponsorship fees, our users are our only sponsors. > Care for brands: red, green or blue. PC hardware isn’t a fashion show, performance comes first. > Test at 1440p or 4K: high resolutions are rarely optimal for gaming (refresh rate > size > resolution). > Get fooled by the cor…

> Test at 1440p or 4K: high resolutions are rarely optimal for gaming (refresh rate > size > resolution). This point especially is such nonsense. If you're only gaming at 1080p you don't even need to be looking at benchmarks, just go buy literally any current midrange GPU and enjoy your capped 144fps in esports and like 80+ in AAA games. Their obsession with "benchmarking with the most popular games" is silly for the…

I really hate the whole "I need to run super high FPS to lower my input latency even though my monitor can only display 1/3 of that; vsync is bad" people.

They're not wrong in that you need that level of GPU to get a particular level of input latency, but the "reason" that you need to run at such a higher framerate than your display's refresh rate is because those games have absolutely garbage frame pacing.

Take a chapter out of the desktop compositor world - if you (the application) knows you're rending at 3x the monitor's refresh rate, wait to sample the inputs and render until 2/3 of the frame interval has passed. Save your GPU the effort (and power consumption).

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