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Re: History of Techno

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I've been listening to techno (not EDM in general, Techno) since the 90s. It's definitely my favorite music for deep work; something about the tight repetitive loops is just perfect for concentration. Since the pandemic started I've been listening to techno mixes almost constantly in order to mask the noise from everyone else in my house. Initially, I found it difficult to find decent mixes since Techno has become a…

It's fascinating how the "techno" moniker nowadays really just means any non festival non house dance music.

Not among people who care it doesn't.

Re: History of Techno

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post #117

I'm pleased to see accuracy in the history of techno. I for one did not know it's roots took place back in the 70s and from the black community. These days when I look at techno artists and their raving followers, its prodimently white. I have since taken active steps to seek out the lesser know black artists to support. Many modern music fundamentals are origins from the black community and very little is correctly…

It's not uncommon for a popular techno artist to talk about how Detroit techno influenced them. As far as I've seen, Detroit techno artists, most often Black, are given a lot of respect for their contributions, so I would like to hear about who was sidelined or not correctly attributed.

Re: History of Techno

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I'm not questioning the experience of North American music lovers and club-goers like yourself, I'm sure you could get your hands on that stuff. But take a look at the Wikipedia pages for the tracks and artists you mentioned, and see how high they went in the US vs European charts (to be fair, I was surprised that the Prodigy did so well in the US) My claim is that the degree to which a genre becomes mainstream in a…

Yeah I'm just saying it was far more mainstream than is intimated. "Charts" have always been a marketing tool, it's questionable to me from the 80s on how much they reflect what people were actually listening to. The point is that mass consumption of dance music was a huge thing in North America. I mean it's funny. In the early 90s I went to visit my extended family in Germany. At that point I was already a major tec…

>I think many Europeans on this thread might have a biased perception of what music consumption in the 90s in North America looked like based more on North American exports than on what was actually happening here

Kinda like the American perception on European's techno culture.

Hint: when the clubs released their yearly compilation based on 3 or 4 CD's, you had one disc per genre: Techno, trance, house and progressive/sung. So in the end we listened to all of the EDM offer inbetween depending on the mood.

Also, as I said, dance megamix CD's in Spain could be found as early as late 80's. Ok, more like vinyls, but the concept stays.

Re: History of Techno

#185

This is about as conventional a narrative as you can get. I've never been happy with it though, it's way too much of a tidy, linear, clean through-line. For instance, this narrative always leave out free-style and electro like Hashim (example: 1983, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykK0uEjSsqY ), Newcleus, etc. Soulsonic Force (1982: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHQ11l4uiM4 ) predated Atkins Cybotron project and At…

It's a shame this isn't the top comment, because it's a lot more interesting than Ishkur's smartassery and all the across-the-pond sniping.

There used to be a great website called Deep House Page which archived loads of Hot Mix 5 mixes, and you could really hear just how diverse that early era of post-disco dance music was, before it even got pigeonholed into "house" or "techno" and the myriad of subgenres that came since. Sadly the page has disappeared, and I'm not sure where to find the mixes now.

Meanwhile, in parallel, people in other countries were experimenting with synthesizers and unconventional composition too. I remember finding mixtapes of an obscure Australian band called Hugo Klang (https://hugoklang.bandcamp.com/) who were doing techno-y stuff with the 303 a few years before Phuture put together their seminal tune.

Without a doubt the big names that everyone remembers as the progenitors were hugely influential. Already in the 90s people were writing articles that started out exactly like this one, so we're already a full generation into the myth. But it's still interesting to go digging and find all the other stuff that surely played a part in influencing all the other people whose stories never got written up.

Re: History of Techno

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post #37

Juan García Castillejo wrote in 1944 'La telegrafía rápida: el triteclado y la música eléctrica' (Fast telegraphy, trikeyboard, and electric music). You can read the gist of it at https://nathanjohnthompson.wordpress.com/2014/07/09/la-teleg... Here's the book in Spanish https://archive.org/details/latelegrafiarapida.eltritecladoy... and this is a homage to his work in 2013 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFZk6WrbOKw

Check out the soviet Nikolai Voinov who worked with electronic graphical sounds in the 1930s https://youtu.be/Mmejo9WL2gY

You can do that today on some of your gadgets with https://warmplace.ru/soft/ans/

;-)

Re: History of Techno

#188
post #57

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That comic is the funniest fucking thing I've seen in a long time. I was literally just making the argument with my friends who were going "oh, I wish Tiesto was still playing trance; he turned his back on the trance scene" to which I responded "Tiesto was never a trance DJ, he was a mainstage DJ. He's still a mainstage DJ, and you don't get on the mainstage playing trance anymore".

You don't get on the main stage without words/lyrics. Also, any musician that wants to get big should know that the fastest way is to add words/lyrics. Music is such a universal language that it needs to be annotated or something.

Mainstage is a specific genre of EDM, ironically known for being particularly transparent and banal these days. Some of the most likely to have lyrics that are basically just another beat track, IMO, if they have them at all.

Trance ironically enough (including a lot of the stuff Tiesto worked on) is known for having very deep lyrics and that's a good chunk of what people are missing I think when they make the comments like above.

I'd check out Beautiful Things by Andain if you're curious. The lyrics are about a woman who believes she gave up her life and potential to be a traditional wife and is contemplating suicide to end her regret.

Re: History of Techno

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post #164

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I wish some of those humorous rants still existed. Music criticism now is so staid and boring. There are more paragraphs dedicated to the author's navel-gazing about their personal circumstances, than what the damn record sounds like. I even wish the elitism still existed. I used to go to Pitchfork, Coke Machine Glow and sites of that type to read about music that wasn't getting covered elsewhere. Now it's basically…

Don't get out your eulogies too prematurely -- let's not forget Anthony Fantano's meteoric rise in large part due to his Gordon Ramsay style critic rants! With that said, I do agree with your directional assessment, but I wonder if it's more due to economic and discovery forces (lower cost to production, discovery AND publication than ever before). That is to say -- I've found that while the sheer volume of mass-prod…

The Fantano phenomenon puzzles me. I have tried to watch his videos, but they're so boring. He looks into the camera for 10+ minutes just talking.

There are never any cut-aways, or song clips, or on-screen graphics...anything to reduce the monotony. And yet he has a million subs and the comments section does include discussion of the record. It's not very deep, but it does exist.

For me though, it's too boring. I'd read the review if he wrote articles, but definitely would not watch.

Re: History of Techno

#190
post #15

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Do you happen to know if the old version of "Ishkur's guide to electronic music" is still available somewhere? IIRC it was a flash site with mostly music bubbles. It opened me up to fringe music genre's like Italo, Acid Jazz and Ghetto Tech.

It's part of BlueMaxima's Flashpoint: https://bluemaxima.org/flashpoint/

Thank you. Installed it and enjoyed listening to the carefully cut loops :)
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