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Re: Michael Collins, Apollo 11 astronaut, has died

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> - Help incapacitated astronaut into suit (temporarily removing own suit if necessary) > - Once both suited up, open airlock again to admit remaining astronaut These steps don't seem to be necessary. Since the CM can be opened from the inside towards the LM, the third astronaut could just wait in the LM and be let in that way. I think the only question is really how quickly can you repressurize the CM. It was basica…

Your insight suggests an even better solution: the spacewalking astronaut could open the internal hatch to the docked Lunar Module so its cabin air can instantly partially repressurize the Command Module

Opening the hatch was a huge pain. They'd have to disassemble the rather phallic docking mechanism (as Collins described it). Not being able to disassemble it was one of the fears Collins had about Apollo 11.

Re: Michael Collins, Apollo 11 astronaut, has died

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Found it! https://spaceflightblunders.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/lunar-o... From the article, I was wrong about not knowing whether the CMP was alive: "Unless there was a very serious issue with the CM’s communications systems, NASA would know of the CMP’s fate immediately. Every astronaut wears biomedical sensors at all times, as part of their constant-wear garment. This telemetry is sent to the flight surgeon." More…

If he was incapacitated slowly, he might have time to don a spacesuit, anticipating this scenario? NASA must know. I've been in a number of situations myself where swift incapacitation would have killed me. This is common.

Looking at other times when astronauts became ill, they tended to tough it out until too late to put on a space suit.

Re: Michael Collins, Apollo 11 astronaut, has died

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You can survive vaccuum for a brief period of time.

> Flight recorder data from the single cosmonaut outfitted with biomedical sensors showed cardiac arrest occurred within 40 seconds of pressure loss. […] The autopsies took place at Burdenko Military Hospital and found that the cause of death proper for the cosmonauts was hemorrhaging of the blood vessels in the brain, with lesser amounts of bleeding under their skin, in the inner ear, and in the nasal cavity, all of…

If you want to see how disabling even a little loss of pressure can be, check it this video.

https://youtu.be/7wT9-zaK3Zo

Re: Michael Collins, Apollo 11 astronaut, has died

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I read an article some time ago about the opposite scenario. I searched for the article just now but didn't find it; would be curious if anyone has a link. I remembered it something like this (but see soarfourmore's reply for a correction): what if the command module pilot became incapacitated but was still alive? The lunar module could still dock with the command module, but the astronauts would not be able to get i…

What if the command module pilot became incapacitated but was still alive? That's why one of the mission planning decisions was that the astronaut tasked with operating the orbiter must have previous time in space.

And they made him fly acrobatics in a jet shortly before the mission. ("Made" might be too strong a word since Collins thought it was fun.) NASA thought that might help train the inner ear to avoid the dreaded space sickness.

Re: Michael Collins, Apollo 11 astronaut, has died

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To clarify, they were transearth EVAs, so they were not even during orbit around the moon. I recall seeing some upscaled videos on youtube of this which looked pretty unearthly. https://www.history.nasa.gov/SP-4029/Apollo_18-30_Extravehic...

Also, in the article linked below, Al Worden described his transearth EVA on Apollo 15 in which he could see both the entirety of the earth and moon simultaneously in his field of vision (the only person to do so in history?). He regrets not having a camera, but he later had an artist recreate the memorable view of the moon behind Jim Irwin (included in the article). https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institu…

Reminds me of Collins on Gemini 10. He did an EVA from further from Earth than anyone had ever been before. He took pictures of the Gemini capsule with Earth in the background. And then his camera fell off and drifted until space.

Re: Michael Collins, Apollo 11 astronaut, has died

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Huge fan. "Carrying the Fire" was one of the greatest finds in my (rural Florida, 1970's) high school library. I'd never heard anyone say "I bore easily", let alone someone as responsible as an astronaut, I was awed by the vulnerability, and encouraged that boring easily wasn't necessarily debilitating. A great book, a great man.

Agreed, it's an amazing book.

Re: Michael Collins, Apollo 11 astronaut, has died

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Statements on Passing of Michael Collins. https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/statements-on-passing-of-...

"As pilot of the Apollo 11 command module – some called him ‘the loneliest man in history’ – while his colleagues walked on the Moon for the first time, he helped our nation achieve a defining milestone." In a way it was a bit disappointing. But it was also a big, huge responsibility. Remember, if something went wrong with the Eagle, he was going to return alone to Earth.

Extra disappointing after going through helicopter pilot training to be certified to fly the lunar lander.

Re: Michael Collins, Apollo 11 astronaut, has died

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I can't imagine that he took issue; these guys generally seemed to put the mission before the self.

They are also cut-throat competitive, ego maniacs. Just incredibly professional. I don't think you get to where those guys are without an incredibly appetite for success.

That's the central thesis of The Right Stuff. Collins was bumped from Apollo 8 and didn't feel that bad about bumping someone else from Apollo 11 as a result.

Re: Michael Collins, Apollo 11 astronaut, has died

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Found it! https://spaceflightblunders.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/lunar-o... From the article, I was wrong about not knowing whether the CMP was alive: "Unless there was a very serious issue with the CM’s communications systems, NASA would know of the CMP’s fate immediately. Every astronaut wears biomedical sensors at all times, as part of their constant-wear garment. This telemetry is sent to the flight surgeon." More…

Similarly, Collins wrote a memo to the astronaut corps explaining that on the Mercury missions, if someone became incapacitated during EVA, they'd have to cut their life support cable and close the hatch and come home alone.

Very interesting and grim! But Mercury capsules only carried a single astronaut. You may be thinking of Gemini or Apollo?

Re: Michael Collins, Apollo 11 astronaut, has died

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To be fair, the pure scientific impact of the robotic missions is probably much higher than human ones (besides advances in medical/bioscience). But, placing people on the moon probably brings more funding for NASA than robots. Edit: Both are still extremely cool though

To compare the scientific return of robots and people, we can compare the results of the only space rock both have visited: the Moon. The six manned Apollo missions brought back much much much more scientific return than all of the contemporary robotic missions. Apollo brought back 382 kg of moon rocks. Three Soviet probes (first one, Luna 16, between Apollo 12 and 14) brought back a total of 326g. While it's a bit f…

Imagine how many robots you could launch for the same money
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