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Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by amanzi »

zeta0134 wrote: post #79

Just this week, I discovered that even after installing Python from the official website, if you happen to run a script that executes "python3" instead of "python", you'll instead trigger an unhelpful link to the Microsoft Store suggesting to install python from there. Yes, the command line itself has ads for the store sprinkled throughout it. Later, when I needed to pull down the Rust compiler, I discovered that the…

"Yes, the command line itself has ads for the store sprinkled throughout it." - this is a bit of a leap... Those helper scripts have been mostly applauded in the Python community for offering an easy way to get Python installed on a Windows computer. If you are seeing the store links after installing the official version of Python, then you've probably just got an issue with your PATH. Perhaps you chose not to add Python to the PATH?

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by Beached »

Shadonototro wrote: post #167

Microsoft love implementing features that make me want to disable everything including Windows Update How many people doesn't get updates today because they got sick with the way they were doing windows updates back in the "forced restarted" early days This bloat culture at microsoft has to stop, please!

I'm so lost. I see these "ms adding shit feature" to windows articles all the time, I go looking for the feature and I can't find it for the life of me. I have auto updates turned on, and the only "modification" I have is I disable bing suggestions in search.

why is it that some people see all this crap, and I'm just sitting here thinking win10 is working perfect and is the best os to date

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by inetknght »

d1zzy wrote: post #169
inetknght wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most games work! Notably, if the game you're playing doesn't have an anti-cheat that's deeply tied to the kernel then there's a good chance it will work with Wine (or Steam Play's version of it) out of the box. The anti-cheats that are deeply tied to the Windows kernel are usually dumpster fires of remote code execution so I don't think there's much of a loss there.

Having to use something like Steam (Internet based DRM) to play games effortlessly on Linux seems to beat the purpose. At that point I'd rather just have a separate Windows 10 install where all I do is just gaming.

You don't have to use Steam. I just use it as a one-stop shop for updates and launching. Some games work in native Linux and most of the rest work fine in plain Wine.

If you don't like Steam as a launcher then there's also Lutris and GOG.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by banana_giraffe »

ChrisSD wrote: post #180
banana_giraffe wrote: post #143

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The official Python installer in the Windows App store installs a handler for python and python3 .. or rather, the stub of the handlers already on your system calls into the app store and it's behavior changes after installation. Regardless of the technical implementation, after you install Python3 from the app store, running python3 from the command line will open the Python interpreter. No clue why the standard non…

The standalone installer is quite old and frankly weird. You're meant to use `py -3` or something like that. I don't know why it works this way. Tbh I think the official store installer works much more sensibly.

Back when I had a large python2 and python3 code bases side by side, I had a small handler that I installed for .py files that read the #! line and tried to figure out which python version to call, and defaulted to Python3 if it couldn't find a #! line. I always felt this was the "correct" way of solving this.

Nowadays, I just only install Python3 on machines, so it's not really a problem for me anymore.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by wayneftw »

neogodless wrote: post #165
wayneftw wrote: post #146

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I just do work stuff on my Linux machine and play stuff on my Windows machine. Couldn't be happier! I've been running Manjaro Linux on 3 workstations for over 2 years now and, as a web developer who does mostly Node/React/React Native, I haven't needed anything from Windows. The best part is not having to fiddle with Windows specific issues all the time. I have even worked on .net core projects with vs code and run S…

Definitely curious about the .NET Development experience in Linux. My past includes a lot of Visual Studio + SQL Server Management Studio, and I'll be working on some Azure data stuff in the future. For now I'll rely on Windows for that, but I'll still hold a small piece of my brain in curiosity mode.

Oh yeah SSMS was one thing I missed. Switching to Azure Data Studio was slightly painful since it didn't handle big SQL files as well and the UI was generally a bit slower, especially with large result sets.

However, I forgot to mention - FreeRDP is a wonderful tool and it works perfectly for me. If and when I need to use a Windows only tool like SQL Server Profiler, it's easy to RDP over to a Windows machine to do that.

I know lots of people do everything on their one computer, but I just love keeping all the OSes separate so I don't have to deal with the possibility that some interoperability layer is actually causing me issues. And look what you can get for $299 that Linux will run perfectly on after you throw an SSD in there - https://www.amazon.com/HP-EliteDesk-800-Cerfified-Refurbishe... - and you can go even cheaper if you get an i5-4590 or i5-3470 instead. For a laptop, I have an old (2015) Acer Aspire E5 that runs Manjaro perfectly as well.

Here are the instructions to setup the dotnet host and runtime on an Arch based distro (Although, I just use the GUI add/remove software control panel in Manjaro called Pamac) - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/.NET_Core

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by r00fus »

Justsignedup wrote: post #37

Here's whats so odd here: - google can push chrome on people in their search results. and google pushed HARD. So hard they dominate the browser market and chrome is unfortunately not known for privacy. - google pretty much makes it impossible to get away from chrome entirely in android. Example being that you MUST use chrome webview when using the google search app. Even though everything else uses firefox for me. -…

You can choose not to use google (it's hard but possible - my default search is DDG on all my machines - amusingly that uses MS Bing for the most part).

However, if you want a non-Mac PC, your choices are slim to none to avoid Windows.

Microsoft a convicted monopolist, DoJ has acted twice already against them. Google isn's there yet.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by wayneftw »

Toutouxc wrote: post #125
VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #80

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are you running their os on an apple computer

I don't get the question. You can only run macOS legally on a Mac, there's no other option. And any new-ish (ten years or so) Mac is able to download the latest supported macOS completely for free. So the OS is basically included in the product (just like a washing machine or a car) and upgrades are free.

Legally, you can run macOS anywhere you want. Apple cannot and has not stopped anyone from doing that. There is no court of law anywhere which will prevent an end-user from doing what they want with macOS.

However, you most certainly are paying for the OS whenever you buy Apple's overpriced hardware. Perhaps the receipt does not state this fact, but we all know that the only way anyone will get macOS is if someone gives Apple money. So, the people giving Apple money are all paying for macOS... And if you're one of those people, you've paid for macOS.

Saying that you're not paying for the OS is like saying that you're not paying for solar panels when you sign a 15 year deal with some energy company middle-man. It's like saying that you're not paying the full price of a smartphone when you buy it subsidized from the phone carrier. You actually end up paying more for the solar panels and the smart phone in those cases. In this case, you're most likely paying more for the OS as well.

If you want to play games with semantics, anything you want can be true.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by d1zzy »

tester756 wrote: post #18
whalesalad wrote: post #2

Apple gives an OS away for free - users never see advertisements. Microsoft charges $100 for Windows 10, virtually every corner of the experience is riddled with advertisements and marketing crap.

I have Windows 10 Pro and I don't see any ads. I don't have win app store / one drive too, removed that on the first day.

I also have Win 10 pro. How have you disabled ads and app store/one drive?

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by throwawaysea »

I am really disappointed in how Microsoft has managed Windows 10. It started with forced windows updates. Then it went to searches in the start menu triggering Bing web searches (which seems like a massive privacy/security issue). And now this. Windows occupies a space where it is more geared for power users than MacOS but easier to use than Linux. Instead of capitalizing on that identity, it is turning into something more like ad-supported spamware.

I really want to give Linux a shot for daily driver use on a laptop and desktop, and have avoided it thus far because it seems intimidating and potentially tricky to get right (for example I worry about getting security right). Are there any trustworthy guides that introduce newer users to using Linux as a daily driver?

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by eli »

wdn wrote: post #171
eli wrote: post #98

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I'd bet that we see a serious US antitrust investigation into Google within the next year. No new legislation needed.

No there won’t. The only reason why there was an anti-trust case against MSFT back in the day was because MSFT was too busy making and neglected to do political “contributions”. Silicon Valley took noticed and now they are the top political “contributors”.

$100 to charity; I'll meet you back here in a year (or less)
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