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Re: Prince Philip has died

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Post by bencollier49 »

digitalengineer wrote: post #180
dr_dshiv wrote: post #53

Because Prince Charles is heir to the throne (and has been portrayed more negatively in the news media than any other living person), some in the HN community may be surprised to know that he wrote a book on philosophy . https://www.amazon.com/Harmony-New-Way-Looking-World/dp/0061... I found the book to be astonishingly good. It takes a design approach to Platonism and western esotericism. It goes deep into "sacred g…

"sacred geometry", esoteric, Pythagorean and holistic? It certainly sounds freemasonry-like. Was he a Freemason?

I believe Prince Charles may have been made a mason, but I don't think he's active, unlike several of his relatives.

Re: Prince Philip has died

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Post by lordvegazo »

Thorentis wrote: post #110
nindalf wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it’s interesting that you’d blame this family for the horrors of colonialism. They haven’t had a say in British policy for around 2 centuries. Although the monarch meets the Prime Minister every week, they cannot tell the PM what to do, unless it affects the royal family personally. The PM listens to what they have to say but charts their own course. If you’re looking for someone to blame, Churchill deserves…

Unfortunately people are very quick to assign "generational guilt" these days. It's as if we've gone backwards, and are no longer capable of being individuals. "Oh, you're white/black/related to x/decended from y, did you know your ancestors did *that*?"

It was Queen Victoria who gave patents to explore. They came and plundered our lands and created unrest first in the name of east india company and then the British Empire. We just dont know how the subcontinent would have evolved without their interference - because of their divide and conquer policy we have an extreme distrust between the muslims and the hindus that had resulted in one of the worst (and ridiculus) land partitions in 1947 and created a conflict that will go on for generations. They interfered where they had no business to be in and made a mess of everything. People argue that his hands are clean because all the bad stuff was done by his mother-in-law and the PMs. But he directly benifitted from the gains (as will his decendents) of the genoide and plunderings and won't even acknowledge. The monarch should pay the subcontinent back for the damages they have caused[0, 1].

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7CW7S0zxv4 [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjTSgP6Lm0A

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Post by alistairSH »

baybal2 wrote: post #155
andrepd wrote: post #144

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> Because Prince Charles is heir to the throne (and has been portrayed more negatively in the news media than any other living person) I can sit and name persons more negatively treated for hours and not run out of names. EDIT: Why is my comment collapsed? Genuine question, don't know how this works.

> Because Prince Charles is heir to the throne (and has been portrayed more negatively in the news media than any other living person) The UK should quickly tweak their royal succession laws, and give the crown to Edward, or Anne, while the queen is still alive. If Charles abdicates, the line of succession dispute would be rather funny under the current succession laws.

Were he to abdicate, wouldn't the crown pass to his eldest son?

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Post by throwaway59553 »

dr_dshiv wrote: post #53

Because Prince Charles is heir to the throne (and has been portrayed more negatively in the news media than any other living person), some in the HN community may be surprised to know that he wrote a book on philosophy . https://www.amazon.com/Harmony-New-Way-Looking-World/dp/0061... I found the book to be astonishingly good. It takes a design approach to Platonism and western esotericism. It goes deep into "sacred g…

There is also a BBC documentary on architecture[1], and his multiple interventions on the subject [2]

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=891qV-7Y42w

[2] https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFoke4cads8VNAi1pbi7IkM7p...

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Post by nindalf »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #163
nindalf wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it’s interesting that you’d blame this family for the horrors of colonialism. They haven’t had a say in British policy for around 2 centuries. Although the monarch meets the Prime Minister every week, they cannot tell the PM what to do, unless it affects the royal family personally. The PM listens to what they have to say but charts their own course. If you’re looking for someone to blame, Churchill deserves…

Oh, did he say something about the atrocities then? In a very public role as the moral backbone of the nation? Did he apologize? I missed that.

By no means am I defending colonialism, least of all the British Empire in India. I’m an Indian, FWIW.

I see two main obstacles to this apology.

1. Teaching kids history. Currently British kids learn all about Henry VIII’s wives ... and then it’s straight to the World Wars. It’s hard to tell a nation of 70 million people to reckon with their past when they know nothing about it.

2. Philip himself was quite old. He grew up at a time when the Empire was a great thing, something that helped resist the tides of Nazism. Britain could not have managed it without the colonies. And later, he became old. I’m willing to give older people the benefit of the doubt - they can’t change their minds easily.

But if his grandson can’t come to grips with it either when he becomes monarch, I won’t be making any excuses for him.

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Post by DanBC »

philistine wrote: post #98
zpeti wrote: post #70

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An interesting perspective I've heard is that she should have been more political in a few extreme cases. She is the head of state and her actual job should be to bring left and right together in the very controversial, almost unsolvable issues, and get them sorted out. She should really be like a couples therapist for political leaders. She never did this. She always stayed out of politics.

I argue that because she focused so hard on being seen positively that she hurt the monarchy in the long run. Her son has nowhere to go but down. She also forced the British Supreme Court to invent the idea that advice given to her can be unlawful, and did not stay out of politics as you said: she was laser-focused on making sure her privileges and money didn’t get touched by denying Queen’s consent. https://www.theg…

She didn't have to wear seatbelts on public roads through her property. The Queen cannot be prosecuted in England.

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Post by hkt »

koboll wrote: post #177
boomboomsubban wrote: post #11

As I can't be the only one curious, the South Pacific tribe that deified him plan to worship Charles now. To me, signifying that they are doing it for the publicity now. https://nypost.com/2021/02/27/islanders-who-call-prince-phil...

Once you get Internet access, legitimate cargo cultism probably fades quite quickly. Why revere John Frum when Jeff Bezos lets you buy in one click?

Then if you have internet access for long enough you can learn to code, and experience a new world of cargo cults..
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