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Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by tzs »

emayljames wrote: post #174
fallingknife wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fucked a 17 year old prostitute is bad, but it's not a "child predator" thing.

Are you not a child until 18 in the us. If so, then it is not prostituting, it is molestation.

It depends on where you are in the US.

The age of consent is 18 in Arizona, California, Delaware, Florida, Idaho, North Dakota, Oregon, Tennessee, Utah, Virginia, and Wisconsin.

It is 17 in Colorado, Illinois, Louisiana, Missouri, New York, and Texas.

It is 16 in the other 33 states and in the District of Columbia.

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by content_sesh »

fishe wrote: post #172
content_sesh wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

whoa nelly. asking for a "rational argument" against distributing child porn before launching into one of the strangest combinations of ad hom and strawman arguments I've ever seen on this web site. here I'll break it down for you: The grandparent post said (abbreviating): But hosting isn't a morality question, they are just storing a number, and hosting company should not have to care what interpretations of a numbe…

In all fairness neither you nor the post that you're trying to back up have made a clear argument yet.

so because child porn and not-child-porn are both stored and transmitted as bytestreams from a hosting company's servers, you can't actually draw a distinction between them? is that where we're landing on this one?

"Playing opera on my stereo isn't a morality question, I'm just creating vibrations in the air, and I should not have to care what interpretations of those vibrations can exist when I play it at 4am with the dial cranked to 11"

can you see how playing semantic games to try to dodge responsibility for poor behavior can be irritating even in the best of circumstances?

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by RuggedPineapple »

tyingq wrote: post #168
shagie wrote: post #161

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Copyright isn't a US thing - its an international thing. One doesn't have to register their copyright in every country to publish a picture (for that matter, they don't even need to register the copyright to have it be protected).

I didn't even go down that road. There's nothing compelling a Dutch company to comply with the DMCA. The context of "illegal" that was quoted a few comments up isn't "DMCA", it's "illegal". Like, against Dutch law. Child phonography might be a good example. On that matter though, here's what copyright.gov has to say: "There is no such thing as an “international copyright” that will automatically protect an author’s w…

There is such a thing, actually. Not explicitly, but international copyright law has been largely harmonized through the Berne Convention. With 179 signatories its a pretty universal 'floor' for copyright protections. The only big abstention was the USSR and they aren't around anymore.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by 1996 »

Y_Y wrote: post #134
1996 wrote: post #52

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> „But the customs made me throw it away before the return flight. I couldn’t even take a sip.”" B.S. Before a flight, a highly paid (given what they do) security theather monkey tried to demand that I forfeit an expensive bottle. Knowing full well how it works in most countries, where the loots are split at the end of the day, I said "watch this", chugged it down, and voluntarily surrendered the now empty bottle. At…

Were you this guy who almost died? https://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/defying-airpo... Or this woman who similarly risked death? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/25/woman-downs-wh...

I feel pride to see I'm not the only one doing this!

> “She was rolling on the ground, shouting"

She needs to learn to hold her liquor better.

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by aww_dang »

alisonkisk wrote: post #140
salawat wrote: post #95

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You have to counterfile, but there's a poison pill in the regulation that by doing so you agree U.S. courts have jurisdiction, thereby nullifying any protections you have from being in another countries juridiction. I mean, there is no getting around it if you want the countersuit to work and reflect poorly on the claimant, but you are agreeing to letting the U.S. have extra-territorial jurisdiction.

Huh? If you aren't in the US you can ignore DMCA entirely.

In practice most hosting companies will suspend your server until you remove whatever was claimed against.

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by dang »

nightwing wrote: post #93

I would agree if the questions was about helping to catch someone who had made these videos. But hosting isn't a morality question, they are just storing a number, and hosting company should not have to care what interpretations of a number can exist.

Please don't start or perpetuate flamewars on HN. They're tedious and nasty and we're trying for curious conversation.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26683670.

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by petre »

xur17 wrote: post #122
egypturnash wrote: post #120

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Okay, what’s your social security number, legal name, and date of birth? It’s just a number, you shouldn’t have any problem sharing all of those.

Honestly, we shouldn't have to worry about publishing those, but banks like to use them as "proof of identity" for some stupid reason, so sharing them can cause problems.

Would you'd rather they used biometrics, DNA included, instead?

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by dang »

kernoble wrote: post #102
nightwing wrote: post #93

I would agree if the questions was about helping to catch someone who had made these videos. But hosting isn't a morality question, they are just storing a number, and hosting company should not have to care what interpretations of a number can exist.

So a bookstore is just selling colored pieces of paper, even if those pieces of paper are images of child abuse? Seriously what is wrong with you? I get that cryto-anarchist are hip and think they're so cool, but there is a real human cost here. Are you OK with that?

Please don't perpetuate flamewars on HN. They're tedious and nasty and we're trying for curious conversation.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by dang »

exporectomy wrote: post #146
kernoble wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So a bookstore is just selling colored pieces of paper, even if those pieces of paper are images of child abuse? Seriously what is wrong with you? I get that cryto-anarchist are hip and think they're so cool, but there is a real human cost here. Are you OK with that?

It would help if people critical of the distribution of child porn would make rational arguments without displaying obvious anger but this is a topic that somehow brings out the hate in people. You're just revealing that you don't have the ability to objectively consider what you're talking about and your opinion is worth no more than a Christian's negative opinion of blasphemy. Are you OK with people using God's nam…

Please don't perpetuate flamewars on HN. They're tedious and nasty and we're trying for curious conversation.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by dang »

emayljames wrote: post #175
fishe wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In all fairness neither you nor the post that you're trying to back up have made a clear argument yet.

This one here, officers.

Please stop posting unsubstantive and/or flamebait to HN. You've been doing it repeatedly and we ban that sort of account.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and sticking to the rules when posting here, we'd be grateful.

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