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Re: Moderna mRNA sequence released to GitHub [pdf]

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I'm sure it's more complex than I grasp as a layperson, but I'm utterly amazed at how simple this _appears_. I get the feeling that this is something I have a better chance of understanding than the average SaaS Terms and Conditions. I expected to have to scroll through pages upon pages of indecipherable text. Instead it's no bigger than a large paragraph of text, and I can easily fit it on my screen.

so, explain it to me ?

Re: Moderna mRNA sequence released to GitHub [pdf]

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We are simply programmable machines, its pretty interesting that all of human life can be reduced down to 30k editable microservices.

Sure, but if you took that 30k of data and dropped it on a planet just like earth it would still take 10k years or so for us to build civilizations as we know it again.

Re: Moderna mRNA sequence released to GitHub [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, really. Typical vaccines are like $5 to $200 or so. And worst of all, usually just one or two doses. For all the horror HIV has wrought, global spending on vaccine development for HIV has been around $1 billion a year for the last few years. In contrast, the USA federal government spends $3 billion a year for HIV antiviral drugs for low-income Americans. $20,000 per patient per year for life. Unsurprisingly, new…

"es, really. Typical vaccines are like $5 to $200 or so" But since the demand is 14 000 000 000 doses, there should still be a little bit of money in it?

Yes, clearly. With COVID-19, there is pretty much guaranteed market for about ten billion doses. Along with direct investment by governments in wealthier countries. Most people, including politicians, want a COVID-19 vaccine real bad.

The parent poster was describing the situation with vaccine development in general, to which COVID-19 is quite the exception. A potential hepatitis C vaccine for example has very different economics, as it would not be deployed anywhere nearly as widely or quickly. Consider that, 40 years after hepatitis B immunization became available, the majority of Americans haven't been jabbed with it.

Re: Moderna mRNA sequence released to GitHub [pdf]

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post #31

I'm sure it's more complex than I grasp as a layperson, but I'm utterly amazed at how simple this _appears_. I get the feeling that this is something I have a better chance of understanding than the average SaaS Terms and Conditions. I expected to have to scroll through pages upon pages of indecipherable text. Instead it's no bigger than a large paragraph of text, and I can easily fit it on my screen.

Check out this video by The Thought Emporium to see how far we’ve come in these matters:

https://youtu.be/J3FcbFqSoQY

This should hopefully provide you with some useful perspective.

Re: Moderna mRNA sequence released to GitHub [pdf]

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post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> put together their sequences in a weekend meh, I could do that over a weekend never sounded so scary, or impressive at the same time. That weekend just so happened to stand on the shoulders of prior decades of research though. i guess this is big pharma's version of `apt-get install`

Modern a has been working on mRNA since 2010 and mRNA vaccines since 2012. They have the process down pretty solid, but vaccines do not bring in the bacon.

The big money’s going to be in cancer treatments. If they can use this to target tumors, they’ll do quite well.

Re: Moderna mRNA sequence released to GitHub [pdf]

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post #31

I'm sure it's more complex than I grasp as a layperson, but I'm utterly amazed at how simple this _appears_. I get the feeling that this is something I have a better chance of understanding than the average SaaS Terms and Conditions. I expected to have to scroll through pages upon pages of indecipherable text. Instead it's no bigger than a large paragraph of text, and I can easily fit it on my screen.

Not Moderna, but this [1] was a very useful primer on grokking how the Pfizer vaccine works, especially for computer programmers.

[1] https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/reverse-engineering-source...

Re: Moderna mRNA sequence released to GitHub [pdf]

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The thinking behind attaching a PDF with colors and not a Genbank file is why we can't have nice things in biotechnology.

Wait, you mean you don't extract genomic data from Excel? The MARCH1 gene brings many interesting surprises.

Excel finally has a facility for manipulating data that keeps it where you put it. It also incorporates a fairly decent functional programming language. It's called Power Query, not to be confused with all the other things that MS has named starting with "Power" and have no relationship at all and are mostly awful.

The only real annoyance I have with it is that the editor window is modal, like it blocks all the spreadsheets you have open on your machine, and it's primitive even compared to VBA, especially for debugging.

It's not just that it's given me the experience of "this is the way a spreadsheet or BI tool should work" but also "this is the way SQL should work". It's a little cumbersome to do the standard SQL-type operations, but the clean integration of functions means you can implement anything that's missing. Like say, Oracle has grouping sets - you can, and I did, just write a function to do that. I always felt that having a separate procedural language in your database was wrong, but I'd never seen the alternative until now. And I've been falling in love with higher order functions.

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