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Re: I tracked down my impostor

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Post by lazyasciiart »

ironmagma wrote: post #34
jmercouris wrote: post #3

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I am very certain he did, whether we have a name for it or not.

But the only definition we have for mental illness is whether your situation falls under some category that we have a name for. It’s a slippery (and fuzzy) enough slope having designations for illnesses that encompass a huge portion of the human condition (see Rosenhan). Much worse if we also include things that don’t have entries in the DSM. It would be trivial enough to say that anyone you have even mild distaste f…

Even DSM-IV had "otherwise unspecified mental disorder" as a diagnosis. https://dsm.psychiatryonline.org/doi/10.1176/appi.books.9780...

Re: I tracked down my impostor

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Post by jrumbut »

cammikebrown wrote: post #123
worker767424 wrote: post #84

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> in the US it is 90-100 In a science or engineering class, it might be everything above 40%.

I really did not enjoy getting 40% on every test in math and physics and receiving a B. I do not feel like I learned the material that well. My very first freshman mechanics midterm grade, a 67, was an A+, and gave me a false sense of adequacy. Maybe they could figure out how to teach better?

I love tests like that, so long as there are some easy enough problems so you don't risk not knowing where to start.

It shows you what the next level is, reminds you that there's more depth to the subject than you can master in 12 weeks.

As long as you get the letter grade you deserve in the end, why not have an interesting challenge along the way?

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Post by numpad0 »

okamiueru wrote: post #122
worker767424 wrote: post #85

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Sweet, sweet karma. And then you go sell the account.

Interesting. Do you know what the marked value is for karma? Is the value tied to something practical, e.g. easier to pass spam filters with an account?

I assume the actual value would be in history of an account as a whole, and karma is a simplified explanation.

There’s no easy way to identify comments on the Internet as stolen, so with enough dedication it’ll be possible to create a system that generate profiles with years worth of life by just mishmashing elements. That will help bots pass spam filter developer on top of existing filter itself.

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Post by rriepe »

N00bN00b wrote: post #176
rriepe wrote: post #170

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> The narcissistic self deception is involuntary Self-aware narcissists are pretty rare too. Can you e-mail me? Info in profile.

Here: https://www.reddit.com/r/narcissism/comments/mde5fh/biweekly... It's my post/sub. You're free to dig in my history and/or DM me. And of course there are plenty more self aware narcissists to hang out with as well.

Thanks. Contacted you there.

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Post by kortilla »

samatman wrote: post #164
cammikebrown wrote: post #123

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I really did not enjoy getting 40% on every test in math and physics and receiving a B. I do not feel like I learned the material that well. My very first freshman mechanics midterm grade, a 67, was an A+, and gave me a false sense of adequacy. Maybe they could figure out how to teach better?

It's perfectly human to want to pass with a perfect score, but this undermines the purpose of a test. A test which has a significant fraction of scores at the right side of the distribution has saturated the range: there are differences in comprehension and mastery between one 100% and another, which aren't being measured by the test. The platonic form of a perfect test would have exactly one student per class who go…

> So a teacher is stuck between writing a test which is too difficult for everyone, and one which is too easy for a substantial fraction of the class.

No, the teacher is not stuck here. It is rarely the purpose of an academic test to plot students on a wide distribution. That’s just something fun for teachers to do to look for exceptional students.

If the purpose of a test is to determine if an individual student passes some bar of understanding, then there is absolutely no reason to make it extremely difficult and then give A’s to those who got >50% correct.

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Post by murderfs »

anamexis wrote: post #112
chrisseaton wrote: post #26

> Some of the work should have been spotted by plagiarism checkers I've been in postgraduate academia and industry, and been involved in multiple conferences at different levels. I'm not aware of anyone ever running a plagiarism detector on any submitted work at all. Do other people do this? Should the people I work with have been doing it?

I had an run-in with a plagiarism checker in undergrad (USA, 2008). A professor ran a research paper I had submitted through a plagiarism checker and it came back a 100% match. (I had researched and written the paper myself.) It led to a very awkward meeting which started with him saying "I think we both know why you're here" and me having no idea why I was there. Luckily it ended with him resubmitting the paper to t…

> It led to a very awkward meeting which started with him saying "I think we both know why you're here" and me having no idea why I was there.

I had this happen once, except it was because someone else in one of his other classes had the same name as me.

Re: I tracked down my impostor

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Post by numpad0 »

N00bN00b wrote: post #147
disabled wrote: post #106

I have been a victim of this, and it is still an ongoing matter. If you don't want to find yourself a victim of these kinds of people, then you better keep these two links as a reference, and always take them to heart: Narcissists Online: http://www.issendai.com/psychology/narcissism/narcissists-on... What to Remember When Dealing with a Narcissist: http://www.issendai.com/psychology/narcissism/narcissists-wh... Peop…

I doubt it's a narcissist and I'm saying that as a narcissist myself. That fragile ego basically means narcissists are afraid of humiliation. On top that, mentally everything is build around shoring up my ego to compensate for the low self esteem. My ego. Not someone else's ego. I'd have to do some really weird mental gymnastics to be satisfied with copying someone else's work, that would just lower my ego even more.…

I don’t quite understand the downvotes. Narcissists, psychopaths, autistic, etc are technical terms, not an abstract labeling for “smart person with completely inhuman thinking”.

Pointing at who seems to be an insane man and calling him a “narcissist” is like pointing at a Chrome window and saying “this folder on Desktop” and okay grandma I get it but that is technically wrong. OP is just explaining the situation.

The Internet when I grew up was abundant of horror stories around encounter with insane person, and there were definitely multiple different modes of failure, like charging towards the storyteller with a knife in hand, the person leaving the identity behind as if it was nothing, storyteller being the unreliable narrator, etc etc. Usually the best response seemed to be either to display a skill that the imposter can’t replicate, or applying hard rules that allows no alternate interpretations so that they cannot elongate the drama.

I don’t know which cliche suggests which diagnosis and armchair diagnosis is at best useless, but it is true that there are types, and if OP thinks it’s not the same type as his own, that is at least an anecdatapoint.

e: ok I didn’t read the top comment. Clinical distinction don’t matter, you just have to know how to defend against. And it’s documented. That is right. I’ll keep this comment as a shame to myself.

Re: I tracked down my impostor

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Post by unishark »

oasisbob wrote: post #146
Veen wrote: post #61

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My partner finds it frustrating that she has to edit out “false positives” even when she knows damn well she hasn’t plagiarised.

How obnoxious. I would hate that too, and would be tempted to refuse. Is that a common thing to do these days? With the seriousness of academic dishonesty charges, I don't see why students would put up with this. If someone wants to bring meritless flimsy accusations, I wouldn't want to help them do their homework in running down all the accidental matches found by their commercial provider, let alone rewrite my work…

They aren't accusations just match scores. The scores are pretty meaningless unless there's a really good match. Obviously one shouldn't use that alone to determine guilt. Charges are decided by professors and committees, not turnitin. Yes some students might be concerned about the partial matches to the point of anxiety, but the solution is to simply assuage those fears. Because unfortunately, too many others habitually cheat with a misguided confidence that they can get away with it. Not to mention a completely warped sense of the risk versus reward for what they are doing. Making them go through turnitin is a way to dissuade doing that. Letting them see the scores before they submit the assignment is also a nicer way to push back. As opposed to having to hand out F's to get the point across.

Re: I tracked down my impostor

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Post by sillysaurusx »

N00bN00b wrote: post #176
rriepe wrote: post #170

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> The narcissistic self deception is involuntary Self-aware narcissists are pretty rare too. Can you e-mail me? Info in profile.

Here: https://www.reddit.com/r/narcissism/comments/mde5fh/biweekly... It's my post/sub. You're free to dig in my history and/or DM me. And of course there are plenty more self aware narcissists to hang out with as well.

You created /r/narcissism, and also label yourself a narcissist? That has to be some kind of high score or something. :)

Very interesting. Thanks for posting it.

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