The internet didn’t kill counterculture – you just won’t find it on Instagram

Post by wussboy » Fri, Mar 12, 2021, 9:56 PM UTC

dylanblanchard wrote: post #120

keiferski wrote: post #109

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YouTube is filled with so many interesting little channels. I wish the algorithms highlighted them more. I remember one channel of an old guy just smoking a cigar for an hour. Said nothing, just sat there. There were thousands of videos of him doing this, going back years. I don’t remember the name of it, unfortunately.

might you be thinking of Adolfo Mateo? https://www.youtube.com/user/SMOKERSOFCIGARSPIPES/videos

Post by monocasa » Fri, Mar 12, 2021, 9:56 PM UTC

browningstreet wrote: post #34

My teenage son asked me the other day what "grunge" and "goth" were. I was then trying to explain "subculture" and "counterculture", and it was surprisingly difficult to explain.. or convey, especially in the context of what he's seen so far in his life. I tried using examples of my own youthful adventures and communities -- still not easy.

Post by ryandrake » Fri, Mar 12, 2021, 9:57 PM UTC

vageli wrote: post #122

iYNGcKqrdNPPmcA wrote: post #64

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I've similarly ghosted social networks and other "platforms" some years back. A culture is usually formed around shared experience. In the case of social media escapists there are two sets of shared experiences: The escapists themselves are simply living their lives as usual. This sort of baseline human experience is a rare thing these days, but it doesn't get much exposure because escapists aren't likely to go out o…

> These experiences to me form a kind of bifurcated culture. I think what the GP was pointing at is that culture tends to have community, and there is no community of people who have fled the larger platforms (until you consider groups on mastodon, secure scuttlebutt, etc).

Post by aaron-santos » Fri, Mar 12, 2021, 9:59 PM UTC

bluefirebrand wrote: post #29

everdrive wrote: post #6

Still reading the article, but this is an interesting blurb if nothing else: "To be truly countercultural today, in a time of tech hegemony, one has to, above all, betray the platform, which may come in the form of betraying or divesting from your public online self." I hadn't thought of boycotting much of popular online space as being counter-cultural. It's an interesting thought.

> I hadn't thought of boycotting much of popular online space as being counter-cultural. It's an interesting thought I think the interesting part is that it's kind of counter-culture but it itself is not really a culture at all. There are no groups (as far as I know) for people who eschew social media. They don't meet up at the pub and talk about it, they don't have any kind of organization, even a loose one. People…

Post by JasonFruit » Fri, Mar 12, 2021, 10:03 PM UTC

Mediterraneo10 wrote: post #144

imaginationra wrote: post #90

I run an independent film/animation/music/interactive studio- I have never owned any mobile phone and don't use any social media except for youtube. Our studio is not on any social media platforms. We are the counterculture. Our studio has released torrents of media over the past 15 years that I would classify as counterculture but you would never know because we aren't hustling on Zuckerbergian platforms or playing…

> I have never owned any mobile phone Eschewing a mobile phone has been pretty counterculture these recent years, but I think we are close to a point where it will no longer be sustainable, at least for anyone wanting to cross borders – or depending on the country, even enter a restaurant or concert. Several governments have announced that their vaccine passports will exist as mobile phone apps, because paper certifi…