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Re: Free for Developers

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Post by ttt0 »

noisem4ker wrote: post #179
dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> asked me to confirm my age by either giving them my credit card details or a scan of my ID. These people have no shame. Frankly, I wonder how far they will go.

You mean politicians? Governments play a role in mandating age verification. https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/10070779#zippy=%2C...

So on one hand you have GDPR to protect your privacy and on the other they made it so you have to give up your entire identity to them anyways. Brilliant.

But let's also not forget that Google is (was?) parsing your banking info from your emails with transactions and purchases, and there wasn't even any option to turn it off.

Re: Free for Developers

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Post by otabdeveloper4 »

Vaslo wrote: post #118

So question for the masses, I’ve wanted to setup a personal account on Google cloud, azure etc and take advantage of free stuff but I am terrified something will happen and I’ll mess something up or someone will mess it up for me and I’ll be out hundreds on my credit card. Any suggestions here? Great list.

Can only speak for AWS.

Don't do it, Amazon's whole shtick is having such opaque and illogical and convoluted pricing that you just throw your hands up and let it go.

Re: Free for Developers

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Post by otabdeveloper4 »

cosmodisk wrote: post #65
abledon wrote: post #56

really impressed with Azure's new UI... its the little things like this that make me want to use it over GCP etc.

Second this. I'm kind of cloud virgin but navigating Azure is super easy. It's very logic,while GCP is..well.. it ain't YouTube tbh..

Youtube is the absolute worst media consumption/discovery UI in the universe.

They couldn't make it more user-hostile if they tried. (Maybe being hostile is the point? TBH I don't know the real monetization strategy behind Youtube, maybe hostility pays here.)

Re: Free for Developers

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Post by paws »

jillesvangurp wrote: post #178

We've been on cloud run for the last six months. We run our monolith (Spring boot) as a Docker service. Cloud build for CI/CD. And Firestore as a not great but free database. We even increased the instance size (1GB, 2vcpus) to deal with memory issues & spring boot and it had no impact on our cost (we are still below the threshold). It's an awesome deal for basically 0$ bills every month (we pay for a few other thing…

> We run our monolith (Spring boot) as a Docker service

Does Cloud Run's free tier 'sleep' containers when they don't get regular traffic? Several years back Heroku nerfed their free tier -- they would proactively place low traffic apps into 'sleep' mode so the next request would have a noticeable several second long delay.

I ask because our SpringBoot monolith takes 30s to startup, and has bursty traffic, so I was of the expectation that Google Cloud would probably 'sleep' low traffic containers like this also. Would be nice if that were not the case.

Re: Free for Developers

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Post by dakna »

paws wrote: post #184
jillesvangurp wrote: post #178

We've been on cloud run for the last six months. We run our monolith (Spring boot) as a Docker service. Cloud build for CI/CD. And Firestore as a not great but free database. We even increased the instance size (1GB, 2vcpus) to deal with memory issues & spring boot and it had no impact on our cost (we are still below the threshold). It's an awesome deal for basically 0$ bills every month (we pay for a few other thing…

> We run our monolith (Spring boot) as a Docker service Does Cloud Run's free tier 'sleep' containers when they don't get regular traffic? Several years back Heroku nerfed their free tier -- they would proactively place low traffic apps into 'sleep' mode so the next request would have a noticeable several second long delay. I ask because our SpringBoot monolith takes 30s to startup, and has bursty traffic, so I was o…

Take a look at the recently introduced minimum instances setting : https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/serverless/cloud-run-...

Re: Free for Developers

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Post by pbalau »

deathanatos wrote: post #82

> Azure Kubernetes Service - Managed Kubernetes service, free cluster management Since this one is the bane of my existence at the moment. Yeah, this statement is technically correct, it is technically free, but you still pay for the VMs that are part of the cluster, and their disks. (Unless they can qualify for some other "free" metric.) But we've been using this, and we've had lots of spans of time where the manage…

Aren't you missing the point a bit? I read that as "you don't have to pay someone to take care of your kubernetes cluster".

In regular setups, you pay for the resources, then you pay someone to take care of those resources. In the Azure's case, and AWS EKS and maybe google offering too, you don't have to pay that engineer or team of engineers.

Re: Free for Developers

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Post by Jyaif »

My game has been taking advantage of the GAE free tier for approximately 10 years now, only having to pay a few cents per months when there's a bump in activity. I probably could have avoided those cents by adding a little bit more caching.

I highly recommend it.

Re: Free for Developers

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Post by lucideer »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #172
lucideer wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stamen could definitely be added as a free tile host (as should OSM themselves), but I would specify that it's the hosting service that's being offered freely, not just the tiles themselves. While the tiles are free (CC) I would say a list of freely licenced downloadable resources/assets for devs would be much bigger/broader in scope.

Thanks. I've tried to do a little reading up on Saas, Paas and Iaas and tried to understand this a bit better. I'll try to do a pull request in the next day or two. For me, Stamen Maps have been a big deal for stuff I do. It took me forever to find something of this caliber that's suitable for my aims, but I'm just doing maps for various projects and not some kind of GIS thing.

> I've tried to do a little reading up on Saas, Paas and Iaas and tried to understand this a bit better

To distill this down for the purpose of this specific topic (map tiles):

- the map tiles being provided under CC is a copyright / right-of-use / legal intellectual property thing. Nothing to do with any provision of material service by Stamen

What Stamen provide that's relevant here is a service, that's somewhere vaguely in between SaaS and PaaS.

- SaaS would be if Stamen provided some kind of maps website, with accounts, etc. for working with data & displaying maps. They don't really do that fully.

- PaaS is a bit closer to what Stamen do: they run a server and host their own map tiles. You can point your website at their server, and they pay the hosting cost of the traffic you send there. (PaaS as a buzzword technically involves a bit more than this, but this would be a subset of it).

- IaaS is an unrelated thing here: this would be like if they offered servers for you to go and host your own map tiles on, along with a load of tools for managing those servers.

TL;DR: The CC-licencing of tiles is about releasing "artwork"/IP? (is there a better term for map styles??) that they've already created. Tile-hosting is about paying for internet traffic of the browsers hitting the server where those tiles live.

Re: Free for Developers

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Post by nikon »

deathanatos wrote: post #82

> Azure Kubernetes Service - Managed Kubernetes service, free cluster management Since this one is the bane of my existence at the moment. Yeah, this statement is technically correct, it is technically free, but you still pay for the VMs that are part of the cluster, and their disks. (Unless they can qualify for some other "free" metric.) But we've been using this, and we've had lots of spans of time where the manage…

Was an early adopter of AKS (after using the equally awful ACS) and wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. Remember being on engineering calls on a Friday evening with Microsoft engineers trying to explain the Kube master was completely broken. Volumes took 15 minutes to provision. Awful.

P.s. your first GKE cluster is free

Re: Free for Developers

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Post by nikon »

paws wrote: post #184
jillesvangurp wrote: post #178

We've been on cloud run for the last six months. We run our monolith (Spring boot) as a Docker service. Cloud build for CI/CD. And Firestore as a not great but free database. We even increased the instance size (1GB, 2vcpus) to deal with memory issues & spring boot and it had no impact on our cost (we are still below the threshold). It's an awesome deal for basically 0$ bills every month (we pay for a few other thing…

> We run our monolith (Spring boot) as a Docker service Does Cloud Run's free tier 'sleep' containers when they don't get regular traffic? Several years back Heroku nerfed their free tier -- they would proactively place low traffic apps into 'sleep' mode so the next request would have a noticeable several second long delay. I ask because our SpringBoot monolith takes 30s to startup, and has bursty traffic, so I was o…

It will starve the container of CPU, but might not 'sleep' it for a while. So wake time can actually be really quick if you have had traffic recently.
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