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Starlink is now Accepting General Pre-orders
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Re: Starlink is now Accepting General Pre-orders
#182I have been using a starlink beta terminal for 3 months now, ask me whatever you want. Day job is senior network engineer for a regional-sized (4 US states) fiber based ISP. My most important message to everyone reading this is that it's not intended to compete with properly implemented wireline based services. It's going to absolutely blow away consumer-grade highly oversubscribed, bottom of the barrel ku and ka ban…
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Re: Starlink is now Accepting General Pre-orders
#183Any idea on pricing? I wonder how many people would switch over if it was priced ~$10 higher than a Comcast plan, just to avoid having to deal with Comcast. I hope this ubiquitous competition will force prices for wired Internet down and customer service quality up. And if it is able to scale, this will be a VERY attractive offer in underdeveloped countries like Germany. (Germany may be a first world country, but the…
It is not intended as a competitor for Comcast. A well built, engineered and maintained DOCSIS3 system with channel bonding can easily support 600Mbps+ down per user (not all at once simultaneously, the standard metrics of oversubscription apply), and 20-25 Mbps up. Starlink is intended for more fringe or impossible to reach areas.
> well built, engineered and maintained
Fortunately for Starlink, there's not much worry about Comcast having any of those things.
Re: Starlink is now Accepting General Pre-orders
#184I have been using a starlink beta terminal for 3 months now, ask me whatever you want. Day job is senior network engineer for a regional-sized (4 US states) fiber based ISP. My most important message to everyone reading this is that it's not intended to compete with properly implemented wireline based services. It's going to absolutely blow away consumer-grade highly oversubscribed, bottom of the barrel ku and ka ban…
Can we use it as a WAN device? Can we initiate PPPoE or whatever on our own routers?
Re: Starlink is now Accepting General Pre-orders
#185I have been using a starlink beta terminal for 3 months now, ask me whatever you want. Day job is senior network engineer for a regional-sized (4 US states) fiber based ISP. My most important message to everyone reading this is that it's not intended to compete with properly implemented wireline based services. It's going to absolutely blow away consumer-grade highly oversubscribed, bottom of the barrel ku and ka ban…
Can Starlink travel with you? My wife and I are discussing purchasing a tiny home on a trailer and the ability to get a decent connection _anywhere_ would be an amazing amenity.
This is the point where Starlink will be interesting to me. As a stationary service it just isn't interesting for any use case I have personally.
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#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
UH??? Serious Question: So are the early adopters subsidizing the masses down the line? i.e. so at $100/mo + $600 start-up/set-up fee -- thats for early adopters ... so the "african farmer who can pay And the encryption policy? The Privacy policy? The data-mining-of-location-history policy? Yeah, it's a Nope from me dawg... And I folow Elon closely, and I like a lot of what he says and stands for - but he is at the b…
It's an ordinary DIA link, except right now it's in cgnat IP space. There are no restrictions on crypto. You can run whatever VPN or crypto through it you want. I'm doing so right now.
Ipv6 is working you get a routable /56
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#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
One of the big issues I’ve had with anything but wired ISPs is latency. They specifically talk about 20-40ms latency being expected in most locations, but don’t specify to where. I currently get about 20 +/- 4 ms from me to 8.8.8.8 consistently. Is their latency to my first hop? Also, what is their IPv6 support like? Can I get a routable /60 or similar? Static IPv4/IPv6? And do you need to use their router or can you…
a. absolute lowest latency I've seen to a major IX point in seattle is about 15.8ms. More often it's 22-23ms. On a longer term, averages between 20-30ms. That's for the combined total of four 550km paths through space plus terrestrial latency from their earth station to seattle. Keep in mind that on something like a DOCSIS3 cable coax last mile segment can have a minimum latency of 12-16ms from just the cablemodem to…
> b. no ipv6 yet.
> c. all IPs are in cgnat IP space
Interesting, this is more like an internet proxy than connecting devices to the internet. Hope they fix it soon. Does the TOS forbid running eg ssh or remote desktop services? Or VPNs?
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#188I don’t understand how this can be low latency and how the throughput and bandwidth can be high. Can someone knowledgeable explain it?
Low earth orbit, 1000 sats up now, 20k+ planned.
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#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
How has it performed on cloudy/rainy/harsh weather days?
No discernable impact on rainy days. During heavier snow speeds will be more like 55-60Mbps.
> During heavier snow speeds will be more like 55-60Mbps.
That's extremely impressive, all things considered.
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#190Earlier quoted context omitted.
For people who live in rural areas this is pretty typical.
Typical in rural areas is $100 for 5mbps or even less. This is less than a mile outside of a town with a university and decent cable connection — they just don’t lay cable out into the country, and the phone lines can’t (or won’t) handle higher speeds
I would expect it'll be relatively the same cost everywhere, but I could be wrong in that. These satellite (and point to point) internet services aren't really designed for people who have a lot of internet options.