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Re: How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs

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Post by thebigman433 »

byecomputer wrote: post #145
xiphias2 wrote: post #16

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The good thing for them is that Microsoft Windows' quality decreased so much that I decided to buy a Macbook for the first time in my life.

Decreased... recently? I feel like Windows 10 has been a pretty predictable experience. If you didn't hate it in 2016, then I'm wondering what happened in the five years of marginal and incremental changes since then that would cause such a change of heart

I feel like the quality hasnt decreased, but the amount of UI bugs I get on Microsoft's own Surface Pro is infuriating and makes me miss the days of having an always great experience with my mid 2012 MacBook Pro. Im definitely thinking about going back to a MBP next year

Re: How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs

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Post by RandallBrown »

koyote wrote: post #121
RandallBrown wrote: post #87

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I personally think the MX Master 3 is pretty ugly compared to a Magic Mouse. I've never used one but generally dislike mice that are that big.

I don't think I have ever cared about how my mouse looks (or how my laptop looks for that matter; it sits at home where no one will see it). Something you use 8 hours a day should first of all be pleasant to use and reduce the risk of long term damage to your wrist (carpal tunnel syndrome or similar).

Everyone has different priorities.

I've never found the Magic Mouse uncomfortable to use. I generally use a trackpad anyway. I value that it's portable, looks nice, and works great with OS X. To each their own.

Re: How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs

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Post by cwilkes »

numpad0 wrote: post #151
baybal2 wrote: post #79

I worked in, and around OEM electronics since 2007. I've seen many guys like Tim Cook, most worse off ones. He squeezes suppliers, and know what he is doing. Others squeeze suppliers, and don't know what they are doing. On one of my first jobs, I've been witness to one such negotiations down to single cents, and microns of plastic for a few million units customized charger order. The order was such a whopper for a sm…

> using 2 cheaper through hole diodes in parallel instead of one a cent more expensive Just an idea, would it be possible to ask suppliers to jack up prices of THT power diodes so price follows forward current rating?

That’s an interesting idea. Instead of treating the supplier as an enemy bring them on to your side with an offer of “if this part fails less than 1% of the time we’ll pay you $X more per part”

Right now the only incentive they have is to give you a part that just barely won’t break for the absolute cheapest amount.

As a side benefit this would weed out the bad suppliers and the good ones will seek you out.

Re: How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs

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Post by kamaal »

yuriko_boyko wrote: post #173
bryananderson wrote: post #147

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Why wouldn't they just move production to another, cheaper country besides China? I think you are underestimating how much more expensive an iPhone would be if it was made entirely in the United States: https://fee.org/articles/a-made-in-america-iphone-would-cost...

They are starting to do that in India.

As an Indian, India isn't exactly a cheap manufacturing destination. The reasons to move to India for a country like US are more political than economical.

The US perceives China as an ideologically incompatible competition at a political level and wants to work with India. That's pretty much it.

Re: How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs

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Post by JohnJamesRambo »

baybal2 wrote: post #79

I worked in, and around OEM electronics since 2007. I've seen many guys like Tim Cook, most worse off ones. He squeezes suppliers, and know what he is doing. Others squeeze suppliers, and don't know what they are doing. On one of my first jobs, I've been witness to one such negotiations down to single cents, and microns of plastic for a few million units customized charger order. The order was such a whopper for a sm…

If only the executives' salaries were scrutinized this closely. If someone is telling you about sacrificing safety to save a lone cent they are insane or hopelessly inept at their job. On almost any profit margin imaginable. Sell a million of these for $88 and you have saved only $10,000 on $88 million in sales. I don't know the Kindle profit margin but I'm going to guess it is quite a bit. One court case about the charger catching fire would eat that $10,000.

Re: How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs

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Post by d3nj4l »

1-6 wrote: post #170
zeckalpha wrote: post #91

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The new SE is bigger than the 12 mini, I just switched from a 2016 SE to a 12 mini and have been happy.

Funny, I’ve exchanged the 12 mini for the 2020 SE because the overall screen size fits my thumb better and it was cheaper. They should have made the overall size of the mini the same size as the SE’s screen.

It is wild just how quickly I got used to the SE's "antiquated" 16:9 screen and button based navigation when I switched to one from my previous edge-to-edge S10e. Turns out, an all-screen display wasn't as much of an upgrade as it's made out to be.

Re: How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs

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Post by tkgally »

yazaddaruvala wrote: post #63

Steve Jobs built consumer products that he wanted for himself, his family and friends. He would push for out of the box ideas while scrutinizing every detail of the product, optimized and repeated. Tim Cook builds the supply chain that he wants for himself, his shareholders and coworkers. He pushes for out of the box ideas while scrutinizing every detail of the supply chain, optimizes and repeats. Tim Cook builds sup…

> Apple no longer needs another Steve Jobs at the throne...

Much as I respect Steve Jobs’ innovations, I tend to agree. As others have pointed out (though I can’t remember who or where), the iPad and iPhone marked an end point in several decades of advances in personal computing. A thin flat tablet that you operate with one finger! And it listens and talks and sees!

Whenever I have read people lamenting the lack of similar revolutionary advances under Tim Cook—and I have lamented that lack myself—I have wondered what exactly those advances might be. While something may be lurking ahead in the AI/health/direct-brain-interface space, I don't blame Cook for not having taken us there yet.

Re: How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs

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Post by jacquesm »

baybal2 wrote: post #79

I worked in, and around OEM electronics since 2007. I've seen many guys like Tim Cook, most worse off ones. He squeezes suppliers, and know what he is doing. Others squeeze suppliers, and don't know what they are doing. On one of my first jobs, I've been witness to one such negotiations down to single cents, and microns of plastic for a few million units customized charger order. The order was such a whopper for a sm…

> like using 2 cheaper through hole diodes in parallel instead of one a cent more expensive

Well, technically, once the first one burned out he still had a spare ;)

You should have insisted on current limiting resistors in series :)

On another note, I can see a small business in selling matched pairs of diodes...

Re: How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs

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Post by d3nj4l »

steve_adams_86 wrote: post #95
airstrike wrote: post #54

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Why would you buy two of the same terribly designed item instead of getting, I don't know, an MX Master (3)?

The MX Master 3 is a wonderful piece of hardware but I personally couldn’t get used to it. I find the Magic Trackpad, though obscenely expensive, seems to fit my needs much better. I used the MX 3 for about a year. I do love some features it has.

If you're a hardcore mac user, I would agree, and even then if you like using trackpads in general. I switch between mac and linux all the time, plus I found using even the MBP 15"'s massive trackpad annoying to use for all-day work, so the MX Master was among the best investments I could've made.

Re: How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs

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Post by pmorici »

syshum wrote: post #128
yazaddaruvala wrote: post #63

Steve Jobs built consumer products that he wanted for himself, his family and friends. He would push for out of the box ideas while scrutinizing every detail of the product, optimized and repeated. Tim Cook builds the supply chain that he wants for himself, his shareholders and coworkers. He pushes for out of the box ideas while scrutinizing every detail of the supply chain, optimizes and repeats. Tim Cook builds sup…

I think that is fantasy land thinking on the part of all 3, and I am sure past companies all thought the same thing until someone did out compete them... Telsa is even more fantasy to believe Ford, VW, or Toyota will never be able to out compete them in manufacturing. Ohh sweet child.....

The other guys problem is they can’t design anything worth manufacturing at a price that is competitive to Tesla
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