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Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

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Post by smsm42 »

LocalH wrote: post #20

Soon as I saw this headline I was like "I bet this is about ASS subtitles". Sad, really. Would have figured the Scunthorpe problem was well enough known that it wouldn't exist in a project of this scale.

It's because of their scale they can afford not to care. So, some app gets kicked out, who cares, they have literally millions more, most of them (like the abovementioned sex game that is all over the ads) actually bringing in the sweet $$$$s. So they can afford to both pretend they are pure guardians of morality and make money, and given their size they don't need to have any customer service, because what you gonna do - go to a different store?

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

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Post by Blikkentrekker »

rtkwe wrote: post #169
Blikkentrekker wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that so? I find that U.S.A. media tends to avoid rape but features all other kinds of violence. Anything related to sex, nudity and swearwords is held to the utmost standards of censorship.

In a general sense yes. The instant there's a (female) nipple on screen there's basically no way you're going to show up on broadcast TV and largely get relegated to paid cable or internet streaming. You don't get onscreen rape but a lot of sex on TV is really rape adjacent and perpetuates the kind of "when she says no you really need to keep asking" thing that's messed up so much of the US's sex culture.

> when she says no you really need to keep asking

I must say that I find it rather tame compared to Japanese fiction.

Though, I suppose there the perspective is invariably reversed. It is almost always the perspective character that is the defending party, so perhaps it doesn't have the same influence.

It's an interesting difference. I find that in U.S.A. romance fiction, more often than not, the protagonist is the party who falls in love, and the story is about the protagonist courting and succeeding in winning the love interest, whereas in Japanese romance fiction, the protagonist usually starts out strongly disliking the love interest, who is the offensive party, but eventually is won over.

I find that say, Boston Legal is essentially a clichéd Japanese teenage girl's romance fiction from the other perspective. If one think of Alan Shore's many love interests as the protagonists of such stories, who are initially quite disgusted and annoyed by his antics and sexual harassment, but more and more find themselves falling for him, it's actually quite similar but reversed.

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

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Post by heavyset_go »

nickysielicki wrote: post #153
heavyset_go wrote: post #139

Google and Apple have kept a stranglehold on the mobile application distribution market for over a decade now. It's time to break them up, or require them to allow other mobile app distributors on their platforms. Surely other companies can be more efficient with the 30% cut or less that Google takes, without forcing users to put up with the poor service that's exemplified by the article in the OP.

How do you suggest they recoup the losses that come with developing and maintaining entire ecosystems of power-efficient operating systems and mobile devices?

Not my problem, Google already makes a ton of money off of me through their mobile ad platforms and tracking, and they can charge the OEMs to use Android. That might even incentivize the much needed competition in the mobile OS market, given Apple and Google's monopoly in that space, too.

How does Apple do it with macOS? What about Microsoft with Windows?

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

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Post by smsm42 »

MFogleman wrote: post #26

Just wanna make sure I got this right. "ASS", automatic instant suspension with 0 human review. "King's Throne: Game of Lust.", with advertised gameplay content such as "I, [the King], shall interrogate this female prisoner privately in my bed chambers", is one of the top advertised games on google play. Got it.

One of those pays ad money to Google.

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

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Post by smt88 »

bambax wrote: post #162
MFogleman wrote: post #26

Just wanna make sure I got this right. "ASS", automatic instant suspension with 0 human review. "King's Throne: Game of Lust.", with advertised gameplay content such as "I, [the King], shall interrogate this female prisoner privately in my bed chambers", is one of the top advertised games on google play. Got it.

Yes. This is the current state of "AI" at Google: a faulty regexp that matches "ASS" in "SSA, ASS, TTML" but not, from the issue description, in "(SSA/ASS)".

As an extensive and long-time user of Google Assistant, it's painfully obvious that a large percentage of "NLP" they're supposedly doing is actually regexp/keyword searching.

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

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Post by ihuman »

jowsie wrote: post #173
ihuman wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't want to name them here, but a new group has popped up that does the exactly same thing HorribleSubs did.

Erai-raws has been at it for a while now.

They rip the subs too? I assumed they just ripped the raw video because of their name.

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

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Post by Blikkentrekker »

mywittyname wrote: post #172
Blikkentrekker wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that so? I find that U.S.A. media tends to avoid rape but features all other kinds of violence. Anything related to sex, nudity and swearwords is held to the utmost standards of censorship.

Might be a product of what you watch. One of the longest running dramas on American television is Law & Order, a crime drama. The most popular spinoff of this series, Law & Order:SVU has focused on this topic for the entirety of twenty-two (!!!!!!) season run. That's nearly 500 episodes of detectives investigating and describing some pretty brutal rapes and sexual assaults of people of all ages, genders, and walks of…

But do they show the rape scenes, or do they merely discussed that they happened?

As I find that a great deal of violence is often shown rather than merely referenced, but rape never is. This also seems to apply to The Practice, with which I am more versed.

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

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Post by ironmagma »

tpmx wrote: post #170
ironmagma wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes we are a religious society. Our roots are in puritanism, in fact that's one of the main differentiators from the (Catholic-based) European countries from which we sprang.

"We"? Google is booking less than 50% of its revenue in the US.

Is this about Google's revenue as a whole (mostly ads) or a particular market (Android play store in the USA)?

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

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Post by tpmx »

ironmagma wrote: post #188
tpmx wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"We"? Google is booking less than 50% of its revenue in the US.

Is this about Google's revenue as a whole (mostly ads) or a particular market (Android play store in the USA)?

That level of granularity isn't provided by Google in their financial reports, so Google as a whole.

That said, Android seems to be doing better outside the US than in the US.

I wouldn't be very surprised if US revenue was dominant within the Android BU (or whatever they call it today).

Last time I heard (probably outdated) there were at least 2 billion non-US Google Play devices active; compared to the 120 million US Google Play devices figure that's widely available.

Also: Wouldn't surprise me if Google makes more from licensing the Google Play store to non-US markets than they do from the Google Play sales revenue globally.

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

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Post by ncann »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #157
alex_c wrote: post #39

It is infuriating that Google's default action for these automated takedowns is to remove the app and ask the developer to upload a new build with a new package name , which means not keeping any of the existing users. It's happened to two of my clients in the past 6 months based on small infractions in the app metadata, but no issue with the app itself. In both cases the app was taken down with no advance notice, an…

I wonder if you could make a dummy app (a canary), submit it, and use that to test if your metadata is acceptable?

You have to be very careful about doing that. Every rejection is a potential strike against your developer account (especially for serious offenses like trademark violation). Get too many strikes and your dev account will get banned.
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