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New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by toomanybeersies »

kristiandupont wrote: post #172
toomanybeersies wrote: post #164

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I think HN is a bit unfairly biased against the touchbar, since it serves almost zero purpose for programming work. However, it's quite handy when doing multimedia work with applications that integrate with the touchbar (Logic Pro, Final Cut Pro, Photoshop)

Is this your experience or your assumption? I was personally very excited when they announced the touchbar but having lived with it for 5 years now, I hate it. And I do a lot of media work, mostly in Ableton Live but also Adobe Lightroom and others. I just bought a new Macbook Air and I was very happy that the feature of not having the bar was cheaper as it was something I would have gladly paid money for.

For photoshop, which I'll admit I use infrequently, it's very handy.

I also use Ableton and Lightroom a reasonable amount (neither are my day job though), and am constantly left wishing that they integrated with the touchbar. I have a midi controller that I use for sliding controls in both when at my desk, but I don't take it when I'm out and about, which is where having the ability to adjust analog controls (sliders/dials) with the touchbar would be incredibly useful.

Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by yoz-y »

dividedbyzero wrote: post #82
yoz-y wrote: post #71

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I’m very dubious about the ports rumor. What ports would that be? USB-A makes no sense. HDMI would, but would it fit? If they add Mini-hdmi then you’d need a dongle anyways. As it is I think the only good candidate is a SD card reader.

Or a fifth and sixth USB-C...

That would be welcome. Although I must say that I very very much enjoy the 'one cable' lifestyle. All peripherals either hang off my screen when at home or off a single dongle when on the go (in the latter case I use a separate power cable)

Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by Grustaf »

H8crilA wrote: post #161
Grustaf wrote: post #157

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Pretty sure kickstarter was a joke, we all know Apple is huge and make their own inscrutable decisions.

Thanks, this really flew over my head then :)

At least I hope it was...

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Post by allenu »

Hamuko wrote: post #88
reeestandard wrote: post #52

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Anyone who spends significant time in vim has already remapped ESC to something else anyway, be it caps-lock or a key combo.

I changed Caps Lock to work as ESC and I'll never go back.

I’ve mapped it to ctrl for a while now and I’ll never go back either. In vim I use ctrl—[ for Esc, which I only started to do when the MBP added the Touch Bar.

Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by stunt »

I have a bunch of USB-C adapters hanging around for different usage and they all have their own caveats with different combinations and different monitors. You get all sort of issues with frame rate, data transfer bandwidth, not enough power to charge the laptop, overheating etc.

All because Apple couldn't be bothered to either keep more ports in their "PRO" lineup, or at least design and sell a quality dock station for "pro" users that works without those caveats, performance and quality issues, overheating, etc. Apple only makes low-end single or max three ports adapters that aren't capable of doing anything serious. It's just lame that they aren't making a high-end loaded dock station for pro users. I hope they just do it, and they do it without crazy price tag.

Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by nicoburns »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #155
nicoburns wrote: post #100

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Devs are the people who make apps for Apple's customers. They'd be foolish to neglect them, even if they make up a small proportion of sales.

They need two lines of laptops for sure. Dev and Creative ones. Devs don’t care about colour gamut, gpu, touchbar, etc...

Are many creatives using laptops? Most creative people I use are using desktops with big screens or iPad pros with an Apple pencil.

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Post by jstsch »

Keloran wrote: post #26

I quite like the Touch Bar, with things like pock it means I can have full screen, hide the dock entire and still have notifications And the ability to set custom apps inside it with iterm, and not have to loose a key on the board itself I spend most of my time in vi when in terminal, and never had a “I’m missing an escape” ever

I also like the Touch Bar, and wish that I could get an external keyboard with an integrated Touch Bar.

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Post by rorykoehler »

0x64 wrote: post #179
rorykoehler wrote: post #98

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One more thing for the wish list. Make the play button work like it did 2/3(?) MacOS versions ago.

https://github.com/milgra/macmediakeyforwarder

Thanks. I've got Magic Keys install which does the same thing however it is a bit hit and miss unfortunately. I'll check this out though it seems to not be maintained anymore.

Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by rualca »

saagarjha wrote: post #175
toomanybeersies wrote: post #164

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I think HN is a bit unfairly biased against the touchbar, since it serves almost zero purpose for programming work. However, it's quite handy when doing multimedia work with applications that integrate with the touchbar (Logic Pro, Final Cut Pro, Photoshop)

It's not completely useless for programming: for example, I use the button to stop an app in the debugger pretty often.

> It's not completely useless for programming: for example, I use the button to stop an app in the debugger pretty often.

The hypothetical advantages of that usecase are negated by the lack of physical F-keys, which are critical to start/stop/step through code.

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Post by kumarsw »

oblio wrote: post #169
TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #152

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Why bother with screens on the keys if no one (read: power users) don't look at the keyboard Personally I think key with screens on them sounds interesting / novel / fun, at least for a week or two, maybe longer.

A lot of power users look at their keyboards. Touch typists are a very small minority, even among power users. At least pure touch typists (people who only touch type). And these computers are not purely for power users.

I wonder how many folks touch-type with the function keys. I touch-type, but I still need to look down to use the function keys.
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