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70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by willis936 »

goodluckchuck wrote: post #163
willis936 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is this Twilio’s doing? Parler was not a customer when this happened. This was Parler being held together by duct tape and not having choices. This is what happens when a young and populated site dependent on services loses all of said services. That is to say: you are a fool to trust websites, especially Parler.

I think that depends on Twilio's knowledge and intent. If the specific purpose for suspending services was to allow unauthorized access, that's conspiracy. It'd be as if a bank's security guard quit and walked off the job the day of a bank heist. He has the right to quit, but not a right to coordinate with the robber and leave his post for the purpose of assisting in illegal activity.

The latter is also conspiracy, and a stretch at that. What would Twilio gain? The most likely explanation was that everyone ditched Twilio as a customer and the remaining skin was quickly pecked off by vultures.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by driverdan »

stuckindider wrote: post #30

Where are the comments about how awful it is for people's private messages to be leaked? Or is this okay because the media told me these guys are the bad guys.

Why is it awful? If something you say isn't end-to-end encrypted you should assume it could be made public. I wouldn't be upset if PMs from Twitter or FB were leaked either.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by refurb »

boredumb wrote: post #40
stuckindider wrote: post #30

Where are the comments about how awful it is for people's private messages to be leaked? Or is this okay because the media told me these guys are the bad guys.

Just call everyone a terrorist and absolve your soul of any uneasiness you have with this. Surely this hyperbole hasn't been used in recent history to push authoritarian and unethical measures by state and private actors paving a golden road to hell.

What I love about this comment is how politically ambiguous it is. You cant tell which “side” it’s arguing for which is exactly the point - the same argument can be used by both sides. That’s what makes it so dangerous.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by ViViDboarder »

Eupolemos wrote: post #87
bgentry wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People have been sent to prison before for nothing more than fetching publicly available web pages by incrementing numbers in a URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weev

I don't know how it works "over there", but where I'm from "URL-hacking" is not considered hacking, but data publicly available.

I’m assuming, but the USA then. What country is that?

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by Miner49er »

thomastjeffery wrote: post #39

When you purposefully leak private data, you no longer get to hide behind the title "Security Researcher".

The person who did this calls themselves a hacker. It's just whoever wrote this article that decided to call them a "security researcher".

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by devwastaken »

albertgoeswoof wrote: post #93
devwastaken wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"the media". You're not being honest, you either havent used the platform or are deliberately lying here. Either way a platform that freeley allows the organization of violent mobs has no place, and neither does anybody who supports it.

back up a little here. I can find Parler on Google. Does that mean google should be shut down and everyone who supports it shut down as well? Twitter is used for this kind of thing too. So is whatsapp, signal, telegram etc. Do we ban all Trump marches/meetups just in case those are used as platforms to organize violence? Why don't we just ban meeting up in public for everyone who voted trump because people can use th…

Google is not in control of the content on parler. Google does remove websites from it's listings.

There's no relationship in what you're saying. Parler is responsible for content on it's platform. It doesn't matter if it's supposedly "neutral" or not.

Parler is a social media app, not a messaging app like signal. People don't go to signal for their latest fake news, they would go to parler and be swayed by a mob of people that continually build off of each other's aggressive behavior. It was a closed loop of people that didn't like being told they're wrong.

There's nothing neutral about parler either, their user base is no mistake. It's entirely intentional, you can't hide behind "freedom of speech" when you're marketing your platform for this behavior.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by BlueTemplar »

whatshisface wrote: post #97
QuesnayJr wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wikileaks leaked John Podesta's emails, including such criminal activity as his recipe for risotto.

It's generally a good idea for leakers to be selective about their releases (Snowden did a better job than Manning in that area IMO). I guess Wikileaks is between a rock and a hard place, because if they started editorializing then that would lead to political bias.

They sided against the US government (and with Russia) years ago.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by ahoy »

stuckindider wrote: post #30

Where are the comments about how awful it is for people's private messages to be leaked? Or is this okay because the media told me these guys are the bad guys.

There are lots of those types of comments. Did you read?

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by SamBam »

QuesnayJr wrote: post #140
mellosouls wrote: post #71

"researchers". Imagine what they'd be called if this was Reddit, Twitter or a non-conservative site they'd hacked.

The hack is equivalent to if someone downloaded all of the content of Reddit, or a database of all tweets, if this post is to be believed: https://www.reddit.com/r/ParlerWatch/comments/kv0jo6/psa_the... . Would anyone even bat an eye if that happened?

From the original article

> This may include things from deleted/private posts.

I think people would be alarmed if private DMs were leaked from Twitter, yes.

The data also includes the geolocations of posters.[1]

Another comment also suggested that the photos of the driver's licenses that were used to verify users were also being downloaded, though I'm not certain if this is true.

1. https://gizmodo.com/every-deleted-parler-post-many-with-user...

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by cactus2093 »

stuckindider wrote: post #30

Where are the comments about how awful it is for people's private messages to be leaked? Or is this okay because the media told me these guys are the bad guys.

Why did you include that “the media told me” part? It dramatically weakens your argument. If you think you’re right and are arguing in good faith, why add this throwaway strawman to imply that everybody who disagrees with you must be brainwashed by the media and not thinking for themselves?
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