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You also have less obligations. Whilst still having access to the EU internal market.
And fewer benefits. No longer can I travel, work and study freely anywhere in the EU.
Yes you can. (Well, at least after covid-19 is over.)
I'm amazed at reading British HNers who are presumably mostly rational calling Brexit "evil" and "racist" on this thread. I personally think Brexit is probably an ill-advised move for the UK, but the feelings provoked here by leaving a historically recent trade and cultural union are far, far out of proportion with the deed itself. If anything actually destroys your country, it'll be the exaggerated emotional respons…
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We're relatively lucky in the UK that our problems with racism are generally subtle enough to be missed by Americans - the EU referendum was fought on seriously dodgy grounds (even ignoring the lying) https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/16/nigel-farag... for example. With the EU the racism on display is usually against eastern European migrants rather than black people. That is not to say that even the most…
It's complicated. I know some minority ethnic British people who voted for Brexit for entirely xenophobic reasons ... and others who would swear up and down that they were not racist one minute, and then spend the next spouting the most hateful sort of lies. Fear and hatred are powerful emotions, and the flames of discontent have been fanned for years by tabloid propaganda and industrialised hate.
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And fewer benefits. No longer can I travel, work and study freely anywhere in the EU.
> No longer can I travel [...] Yes you can. (Well, at least after covid-19 is over.)
I'm amazed at reading British HNers who are presumably mostly rational calling Brexit "evil" and "racist" on this thread. I personally think Brexit is probably an ill-advised move for the UK, but the feelings provoked here by leaving a historically recent trade and cultural union are far, far out of proportion with the deed itself. If anything actually destroys your country, it'll be the exaggerated emotional respons…
Just compare the economic growth per capita of Norway (not in EU) with Sweden (in EU). It's at best an exaggeration that leaving the EU is going to have a significant deleterious impact on the UK.
But honestly, I’m not an economist and haven’t read a great deal about the projections. And many Brits will accept any difficulties in exchange for increased control over their own political destiny.
…and Gibraltar will enter the Schengen zone, abolishing all border controls on its border with Spain ( https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55497084 ) Once that comes into effect, the Spanish/Gibraltarian police will be allowed to enter Gibraltar/Spain when in hot pursuit and to continue observation operations ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area#Police_and_judic... )
Such a waste.
Might not be all bad if we get CANZUK out of it. Here's hoping.
Brexit was a triumph of evil men. We were foolish and naive, and did not expect these craven lies to have such dire effect. This tidal wave of pent up hatred unleashed from these deep and forgotten pools of animus and fear. Nonetheless -- the world keeps on turning. Evil may win a battle here and there, but it cannot be allowed to win the war. What these vandals destroy can always be built up anew.
That’s how Eurasia got the Crusades, you know. Operation Barbarossa used similar language.
Poetry is a poor platform on which to base actions that affect international relations. Leads to goose stepping and such..
Our civilization is about to face its darkest hour. We need everyone working together, not just in the EU. Instead this type of isolationist response seems to be what we are going for, not just in the UK but the US and other places. Very sad that we don't seem to have learned much form the history of the civilizations that came before us.
If they decide to rejoin at some point, perhaps the EU could demand elimination of the pound.
The Euro has done huge damage to the EU project - because of it Greece is stuck in debt, smaller countries can't support their economies in the middle of the pandemic, etc. Even the most ardent europhiles have come around to realise gow problematic it is. The real sovereignty of a country is not in it's armed forces - its the currency. Without control over the press and interest rates, all you can do is tax and spend…