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YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by kevincox »

driverdan wrote: post #177
kevincox wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to pay for YouTube premium. But I left and switched to adblocking after it kept getting worse (YouTube is one of the few sites that I use an adblocker on). - YouTube Music is awful, not a halfway decent product to replace the good Play Music. - Stopped sending emails for video uploads (I know, I'm weird) - "Premier" videos started to be shown in the RSS feeds. So now I am notified of stuff I can't even watch y…

> Half the time videos just play at 360p This is your ISP's fault for having bad peering.

I'm 99% sure it isn't my ISP. I get a very good connection to everything consistently including Google services. And switching to 4k works nearly instantly and never has hiccups.

For some reason their detection algorithm is bugged out.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by Aunche »

cableshaft wrote: post #4

I know there are several content creators (such as Jim Sterling) that have their videos ad-free as a perk for their supporters (since he's supported enough via Patreon). He's pretty angry about this change. I somewhat understand Google's stance on this, as it's a service that should be allowed to make money even on people who don't want to make money. They don't really have such a way to opt out of pretty much any ot…

> I know there are several content creators (such as Jim Sterling) that have their videos ad-free as a perk for their supporters (since he's supported enough via Patreon). He's pretty angry about this change.

That just comes off as entitled. Youtube is providing free bandwidth, hosting, and advertising for his patreon.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by comprev »

thdrdt wrote: post #171
oritsnile wrote: post #156

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Honestly I'm quite surprised that it happened not sooner, considering how may gigabytes of video are uploaded each day, of which only a fraction makes YouTube money.

In 2019 30,000 hours of content per hour was uploaded.

YouTube statistics are almost like astronomy when you try to comprehend how big the distances between planets are. 30k hours per hour!

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by thdrdt »

cableshaft wrote: post #4

I know there are several content creators (such as Jim Sterling) that have their videos ad-free as a perk for their supporters (since he's supported enough via Patreon). He's pretty angry about this change. I somewhat understand Google's stance on this, as it's a service that should be allowed to make money even on people who don't want to make money. They don't really have such a way to opt out of pretty much any ot…

"...and pretty much have their entire business on there..."

This is what I don't get about YouTubers. They created a business with basically only one source of income. This is bad practice in every business book.

I am a freelancer. If I only had one customer my business would be instantly over when they didn't hire me anymore.

YouTubers put too much trust in an untrustworthy business partner.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by kllrnohj »

cableshaft wrote: post #4

I know there are several content creators (such as Jim Sterling) that have their videos ad-free as a perk for their supporters (since he's supported enough via Patreon). He's pretty angry about this change. I somewhat understand Google's stance on this, as it's a service that should be allowed to make money even on people who don't want to make money. They don't really have such a way to opt out of pretty much any ot…

This sounds like a pretty straightforward cause & effect here. Creators went for direct monetization outside of youtube instead of ads, and youtube responded by keeping their net income the same by just showing ads anyway.

> But at the same time, there are people who have so heavily invested into the YouTube ecosystem with certain expectations for a very long time, and pretty much have their entire business on there, so they can't very easily take their business elsewhere if they're unhappy with the change.

A key part of running a business is risk management & mitigation. YouTube has very obviously been an ad-supported video platform for at least a decade. Hoping nothing changes about your little ad-free corner of that platform is not a sound business plan.

It's shitty that Google didn't give a heads up, but anyone whose business is riding on this should definitely have been expecting something like this and had a backup plan. Literally free content hosting is obviously not a thing that will exist for very long. Enjoy it while it lasts, but you know also have a Vimeo account ready to go as well or something like that.

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Post by callesgg »

helmholtz wrote: post #157
mrspeaker wrote: post #143

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I'm the same as you regarding reduced viewing time recently... unless I'm extremely motivated, I kill the tab as soon as the ad starts. It's the same with sites that require javascript to view: I'm sure the content might be good if I whitelisted it - but most the time it's my cue to realize I'm procrastinating and should get back to creating rather than consuming!

It heartens me to know that this sentiment is spreading. I have some black and white rules set up for myself. The day Whatsapp stops encrypting chats is the day I jump ship. The day Youtube blocks access to those using uBlock, I'll stop going to Youtube. The day old.reddit.com and i.reddit.com stop working, sayonara Reddit. I've come to realise that a) I just don't derive TOO much value from any of these websites/ser…

15 is way to much.

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Post by levosmetalo »

draugadrotten wrote: post #5
cableshaft wrote: post #4

I know there are several content creators (such as Jim Sterling) that have their videos ad-free as a perk for their supporters (since he's supported enough via Patreon). He's pretty angry about this change. I somewhat understand Google's stance on this, as it's a service that should be allowed to make money even on people who don't want to make money. They don't really have such a way to opt out of pretty much any ot…

> it's kind of a shitty move by Google. It's kind of business as usual for Google. Why would anyone expect them to be kind and generous suddenly when they have consistently for years pulled the rug out underneath previosly-free services. (or killed them off completely https://killedbygoogle.com/ ) gmail subscriptions are next, just wait and see.

I have free grandfathered Google Business Plan, including Gmail, but on my domain. The moment Google decides that I have to pay for it, even if it's 0,01 € per month, I'll be moving to another paid service.

Why I didn't do it myself, pure laziness, but starting to charge would be a kick in the right direction.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by sosuke »

helmholtz wrote: post #157
mrspeaker wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm the same as you regarding reduced viewing time recently... unless I'm extremely motivated, I kill the tab as soon as the ad starts. It's the same with sites that require javascript to view: I'm sure the content might be good if I whitelisted it - but most the time it's my cue to realize I'm procrastinating and should get back to creating rather than consuming!

It heartens me to know that this sentiment is spreading. I have some black and white rules set up for myself. The day Whatsapp stops encrypting chats is the day I jump ship. The day Youtube blocks access to those using uBlock, I'll stop going to Youtube. The day old.reddit.com and i.reddit.com stop working, sayonara Reddit. I've come to realise that a) I just don't derive TOO much value from any of these websites/ser…

I wonder how much each a YouTube user is worth? My guess is pennies. Seems like $3 would be good.
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