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To find great remote employees, prioritize candidates with strong writing skills

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Re: To find great remote employees, prioritize candidates with strong writing skills

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The longer I work in tech, the less silly it seems to have "English minor" on my resume.

These comments are making me feel a lot better about having "Philosophy major" on my resume.

No that was a waste ^_^

One of the things that was becoming a big thing when I left my last big company employer, was non-standard backgrounds. When you're looking for diversity a product manager or developer that has had a previous job as a lawyer (or whatever) can be a really useful asset.

They see things a little bit different from their team. Call out risks that wouldn't otherwise have been addressed.

Re: To find great remote employees, prioritize candidates with strong writing skills

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Might look like self-promotion but a tool* I've developed is meant to help (read: force) people into writing in a better way:

You write your full idea, then you create a new 'layer', and have to cut down on words. Basically distilling what you're trying to say. In the end you'll end up with the 'shortest' layer of the message.

I built it partly with the aim of helping remote workers 'learn' how to write better

* https://bychgroup.com/layered-ink

Re: To find great remote employees, prioritize candidates with strong writing skills

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I recommend hiring at least one person who actually knows how to get the job done. I also recommend making sure you don't interrupt them with senseless meetings, spam them with a doom scrolling e-mail stream, or force them to be in useless chat rooms that keep interrupting their train of thought.

> I recommend hiring at least one person who actually knows how to get the job done.

I totally agree.

Having "strong writing skills" is a plus -- but it is way less important than being qualified to the job.

Re: To find great remote employees, prioritize candidates with strong writing skills

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First of all, writing skills != good communication. As someone else said, hire the person who actually knows how to get the job done -- even if they are not great writers. (I don't think J. K. Rowling would be the best candidate for many jobs -- except, perhaps, writing.)

Also, hire telepaths to know when the job is done.

Re: To find great remote employees, prioritize candidates with strong writing skills

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> I applied to 250+ positions That sounds wrong. It's common, but it still sounds wrong to me. When I look for new jobs, I find a couple of companies (3-4) that match with what I'm looking for exactly, read up on the companies, tell them explicitly how I fit into what they need and write them personally. I have a 100% success rate when it comes to interviews, and most of the time I get a offer, but drop out when my c…

”I’m sure your success rate will improve then” I think you are wrong. I don’t have a CS degree, I don’t have top brand college or employer. You also assume wrong that I didn’t dedicated myself to apply to specific jobs where I was a very good fit. I did that. And it didn’t got me offers. If you tell me more about your profile, I am sure I can pinpoint why you get 100% success rate and I don’t. I am pretty sure it is…

Hmm. I don't agree with you. My degree is chemistry from a good-not-great institution. Since getting into SE, I've progressed to technical leadership very rapidly.

I have dedicated myself to applying for jobs, but it's not that much work. It's about making sure you advertise matching strengths.

I make sure my CV only has the minimum information needed to sell this. Then only job of my CV is to get a callback. After that, it comes down to my interviewing.

I also have an extraordinarily high success rate. I've applied to 8 SE jobs in my career. 7 of those led to interviews, 4 to jobs. Of the three interviews, 2 of them I chose not to progress with (i.e. they didn't reject me, I rejected them).

Maybe my strength has been applying to realistic opportunities. My first jobs were low paying roles in non-tech companies.

Remember that your strongest selling point is your most recent experience. As a fresh graduate, your university matters the most. As soon as you have your first job, your experience here will dictate your next step.

Since my first job, I still get asked about how I transitioned from chemistry to SE, but the tone has changed. People don't expect me to justify the change, they want to hear about the similarities, differences, and strengths that have translated. It's become one of my favorite interview questions to answer now.

Re: To find great remote employees, prioritize candidates with strong writing skills

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As a manager, you can probably get away with this. As an IC, people rarely read my emails if it doesn't fit in their screen (so 3 paragraphs is the max). The only thing I've found that works is to send details, and then probe the recipient on each important item in there to make sure they understood what I wrote. If I'm too detailed, they will get lost. If I'm very concise (but still complete ), they'll misinterpret.…

The One Palm Rule. I know a few people that promote this :) If it's larger then your palm, when you streach a hand towards screen, you are not obliged to read it. Suprisingly effective, especially if you are open about it. Of course it applies only for those with 1000 unread (after filters).

I can't fit your comment with my palm on my current monitor.

(But I read it anyway.)

I guess the effect of following this rule depends a lot on formatting, size of hands and monitor and how long your arms are and how far away you are standing.

Re: To find great remote employees, prioritize candidates with strong writing skills

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I've been working on remote teams for almost 20 years. The key to success is overcommunicating. In other words--don't assume people have full context or share assumptions. Write emails that lay out assumptions explicitly and detail problems completely. As a manager I sometimes feel like a Habsburg bureaucrat buried in the Chancery offices sending painstaking messages to a far flung empire. Come to think of it, remote…

Nobody seems to read long emails.

Re: To find great remote employees, prioritize candidates with strong writing skills

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post #74

How do you interview for developers with strong writing skills? Do you give a writing assignment, etc

I’ve submitted job applications that asked me to include a writing sample, and have also asked job applicants to edit a page of bad writing riddled with errors, for positions where writing or editing skills were important.

but we are talking about developers here. is it socially acceptable to give writing interviews here ?

Re: To find great remote employees, prioritize candidates with strong writing skills

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post #166

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The One Palm Rule. I know a few people that promote this :) If it's larger then your palm, when you streach a hand towards screen, you are not obliged to read it. Suprisingly effective, especially if you are open about it. Of course it applies only for those with 1000 unread (after filters).

I can't fit your comment with my palm on my current monitor. (But I read it anyway.) I guess the effect of following this rule depends a lot on formatting, size of hands and monitor and how long your arms are and how far away you are standing.

You are holding your palm flat towards screen, right? :)

It's one of those things you apply only when it suits you, and ignore when it doesn't work to your benefit.

Jokes aside: I wrote this because it's both sad and interesting how people cope with huge amounts of communication that waits for their action.

Re: To find great remote employees, prioritize candidates with strong writing skills

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You'd handicap yourself much worse by hiring people that you can't effectively communicate with.

You're not necessarily hiring people you're working with, even if you're hiring for your local office. Say your company has an office in Germany, well you're going to communicate with colleagues whose native language is German. Or say your company decides to select a supplier from Japan, you have to communicate with them. You can't say they shouldn't have been hired in the first place.

That’s a completely different topic from hiring immigrants with insufficient English skills.
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