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The Lonely Work of Moderating Hacker News (2019)

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Re: The Lonely Work of Moderating Hacker News (2019)

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Twitter can have a very high signal-to-noise ratio if you follow the right people.

I followed a lot of economists (ie Robert Reich, Krugman, etc) thinking they would post interesting economics related content. They do, but it turns out that they are ordinary humans who like posting the same tweets (and rants) that I would post. I don't think Twitter can have the same signal to noise ratio as a well moderated forum like HN, even if you follow the "right" people, because the format of the site incent…

> I followed a lot of economists (ie Robert Reich, Krugman, etc) thinking they would post interesting economics related content.

I think you have to stop following famous people like those guys, and instead follow up-and-coming economists and other scientists and bleeding edge researchers/builders, who are working hard to make a name for themselves with novel research in some interesting area.

Those are more likely to keep their Twitter feed focused on their research, rather than off-topic tweets, rants, political advocacy and "influencer" stuff people do once they become famous.

Also, the community of people who engage with them tend to be similarly focused, so you can find more high S:N folks to follow in their discussions.

If you curate your Twitter feed to just those types, you get a very high S:N ratio there.

Re: The Lonely Work of Moderating Hacker News (2019)

#182

I've been confronted by Dang a long while ago in an account I lost the access to since. I was hurt, but it was also a very educative experience. Most of my life has been spent moderating online communities. Needless to say why, I am trying to mimic the style of moderation I have been on the receiving end of. Keep up the good work!

I got told repeatedly that I "knew why" I was rate limited, but never given an actual explanation. Then it was lifted. Go figure.

The actual comment does not match your story.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16268353

Re: The Lonely Work of Moderating Hacker News (2019)

#183

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Twitter can have a very high signal-to-noise ratio if you follow the right people.

I followed a lot of economists (ie Robert Reich, Krugman, etc) thinking they would post interesting economics related content. They do, but it turns out that they are ordinary humans who like posting the same tweets (and rants) that I would post. I don't think Twitter can have the same signal to noise ratio as a well moderated forum like HN, even if you follow the "right" people, because the format of the site incent…

I've started using the Lists feature of Twitter a ton, carefully curating users who tend to post around specific topics that I'm interested in. Then I just poke my head in the appropriate list whenever I want to catch up on what's been happening in a given subject. Totally changed my Twitter experience.

Re: The Lonely Work of Moderating Hacker News (2019)

#184
This is a truly amazing place. I know there are some haters out there, (your ngates and your shithnsays's), but HN is a truly unique board, with overall quality discussion, and a high SNR, and the moderation policy is a huge part of all of this.

So seriously, thanks dang. I think we've come to blows a few times, probably even not-so-kind ones, but whatever you're doing here works and you should probably keep doing it :)

Re: The Lonely Work of Moderating Hacker News (2019)

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post #115

" For decades, the phrase “Eternal September” has been used to describe the tipping point for a message board or online community—the inclusion, or invasion, of new users who dramatically change the existing subculture. (The term originated in September, 1993, after America Online made Usenet, a decades-old message-board system, accessible to many of its members, who were new to the Internet.) " Actually, it predates…

I thought Eternal September was coined in comparison to the temporary September of new students?

Yes. New students coming online : September :: Constant stream of AOL users coming online : Eternal September.

Re: The Lonely Work of Moderating Hacker News (2019)

#186
post #32

Thanks dang! You've helped keep HN readable, corrected countless title and link errors, and prevented heated discussions from devolving into fights. I also am super thankful for your help getting my "Show HN" post to the front page. We all appreciate you.

I'm going to throw one out for dang here. I took your moderating personally when I first joined here, got banned for some comments I didn't think were that bad, hell i've made worse since, spent a while posting greyed out comments going off at dang, posted some not so shitty comments that got given a chance, realized I should try harder in my comments and just push my way back in by writing things that contribute bet…

I respect how you've grown as a result of your interaction with HN. We're not about trying to stay just below the line here. There's no nefarious Man holding us down. We just want a certain level of civil discourse. I try not to say anything here that I wouldn't say in person, or wouldn't want tied to my real identity. I can be obnoxious at times, here and in person, and I appreciate being called out for it. HN is now the only place I interact with random Internet people, because the civility level is so high.

Re: The Lonely Work of Moderating Hacker News (2019)

#187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter can have a very high signal-to-noise ratio if you follow the right people.

I followed a lot of economists (ie Robert Reich, Krugman, etc) thinking they would post interesting economics related content. They do, but it turns out that they are ordinary humans who like posting the same tweets (and rants) that I would post. I don't think Twitter can have the same signal to noise ratio as a well moderated forum like HN, even if you follow the "right" people, because the format of the site incent…

That’s part of Krugman’s persona - he does plenty of ranting - agreed on trying other economists. I like Stiglitz but no one is immune from human moments on twitter :P

Re: The Lonely Work of Moderating Hacker News (2019)

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post #156

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HN tends to devalue the individual, and value the content. (E.g. high quality comment by a not famous person) Twitter seems to value the individual, but devalue the content. (E.g. low quality posts by a famous person) The former is more meritorious, inasmuch as the vote base can accurately judge a comment. The latter is more consistent, in that popular people stay popular (and admittedly, are popular for a reason). P…

> HN tends to devalue the individual, and value the content. (E.g. high quality comment by a not famous person) And yet its measure of quality is karma scores for the individual, not the content.

Karma scores are not front-and-center, though. Years ago, they switched to hide the score of an individual piece of content (such that an unvoted content is visually the same as one that has 100 upvotes [it might be sorted differently, but otherwise is indistinguishable]). To my mind, that was one of the better changes to the quality of community moderation.

Re: The Lonely Work of Moderating Hacker News (2019)

#189

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Twitter can have a very high signal-to-noise ratio if you follow the right people.

Can it? Last I used it (which was a long time ago) Twitter itself added noise to my feed.

It might be useful to note that I don’t actually have a Twitter account. So I just read a handful of people’s pages once in a while who do a good job of pulling in all the best things of the communities I care about, and also people send me tweets from time to time. So usually I can skip over most of the drama.

Re: The Lonely Work of Moderating Hacker News (2019)

#190
post #68

I’ve put up a bunch of stories, most get no traction. However on the weekend once in a while I get a message from HN that one of my stories is pretty interesting and I should repost it. While every other service relies completely on some algorithm, it’s good to see a place like HN where people are jumping in and trying to stabilize things.

Wow interesting. I didn’t know that happens. Who contacts you and how?

The moderators email you, I think.
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