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Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

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Post by adrianmonk »

lovecg wrote: post #124

Can we have a conversation about broader implications of the increasing power in the public discourse of Twitter et al.? I’m no Trump supporter but I do wonder if the tables were turned and Twitter e.g. turned Biden’s page into a wall of hidden tweets because of something it disagreed with (there are enough grievances with Big Tech from both sides). Do people think this is isolated (because Trump is, well, Trump) or…

Statements fall on a spectrum between pure opinion and incontrovertible, undisputed fact. Somewhere along there is a threshold where it's no longer about agreeing with something.

I'd say it's impossible to do a perfect job of finding that threshold, but I think Twitter has done a decent job of it with Trump's tweets.

But yes, as it stands right now, it is in their hands and we are relying on them to do a good job of it when they decide to.

Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

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Post by viig99 »

Meh, trump's gonna whine democrats stole the election, media is constantly talk about him for next 4 years, he will win again in 2024 and nothing is going to change. Meanwhile climate change, economy and social media nonsensence will keep getting worse, why ? because nobody wants to really fight for the little guy.

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Post by ThinkBeat »

It is Important to note that this is not the official result.

It is 99.99% correct call but it is not the official result.

Unless DJT does the sportsmen like thing and concedes.

Given Hillary had told not to call concede under any circumstances DJT will probably not either.

It will be a totally unnecessary mess.

Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

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Post by alessivs »

mmastrac wrote: post #3

The media was way too cautious in making the call here, but it's easy to understand why when the Republicans made it so difficult to count absentee ballots before election night, likely to benefit their candidate through the confusion of swinging red and then blue. If you don't want this to happen again, pressure your red representatives to stop demonizing mail-in/advance voting, and stop destroying the postal system…

> pressure your red representatives to stop demonizing mail-in/advance voting, and stop destroying the postal system

I don't see why expressing concerns about postal voting would necessarily be a partisan thing. Don't the TWO major political blocks want a fair process? Perhaps everyone?

...especially in light of evidence of documented cases. Here is a sample query for: "Fraudulent Use of Absentee Ballots which resulted in a criminal conviction" (with results ruled as recently as 2020):

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud/search?combine=&state=Al...

The result set doesn't include "Duplicate voting", "Impersonation", "Altering the vote count", which are separate criteria (relevant to mention because they are part of the ongoing allegations).

Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

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Post by softwaredoug »

dorkwood wrote: post #163
softwaredoug wrote: post #81

On the data nerd side I continue to be shocked at how people misinterpret the certainty of polls/forecasts. Forecasts give us probability distributions based on historical polling error data. Not infallible predictions the expected value will 100% happen. It’s fairly revealing of society’s general innumeracy, just as it was 4 years ago when Trump won.

What you're saying is that any result with a non-zero chance of happening should be unsurprising to us, because it was still in the realm of possibility? If that's the case, what use are polls? What makes an election forecast based on polls more valuable than a coin flip?

Your coin flip analogy is spot on. But instead of a 1 in 2 probability, Trump had a 1 in 10 probability of winning. We knew this probability precisely because of polling data (and historical error).

This wasn’t some rare weird outcome. This was probably a standard deviation or so closer to Trump in a forecast. Perfectly normal thing to happen.

Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

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Post by jungletime »

sdfhbdf wrote: post #83

Interesting fact I noticed: If Biden is to take the presidency after the Electoral Collage voted that would make him the oldest president to take office yet, also interesting that wikipedia already marked Biden as president-elect [0]. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_Unit...

The votes for Biden are endless. I've been watching TV and that much is clear. Just when you think they're done. More is to come. He must keep them in his crypt somewhere.

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Post by aconbere »

nostromo wrote: post #115

There are a lot of curious statistics about ballot counts in a few swing states, including a record-breaking 90% turn-out in Wisconsin. https://theredelephants.com/there-is-undeniable-mathematical... (Ignore the flame-bait headline, and go right to the charts.)

Look, you seem like a bright and engaged fellow, but this right here is a perfect example of how easy it is for false information to get magnified.

This claim started as a tweet by Donal Trump Junior but can be easily fact checked by looking up the voter count for 2020 and the voting population of Wisconsin (3.2M against 4.5M), or in a desperate time a quick Google.

I expect better from the community here and from you personally.

Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

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Post by MilnerRoute »

bosswipe wrote: post #84

If Republicans keep the Senate Biden won't accomplish much of his agenda. Especially with Mitch Mcconnell's uncompromising approach expect gridlock, government shutdowns, probably a constitutional crisis or two, and a complete inability to respond to any further crises.

In 2001 a Republican Senator flipped to become a Democrat and give them the majority.

I'm not ruling out that possibility now. Especially when the stakes are even higher.

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