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Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by vlunkr » Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 8:01 PM UTC

nicholascamera wrote: post #107

JadoJodo wrote: post #23

A few others: - Temporary Containers[0] - Google Container[1] - Google Container w/ Integrations (YouTube, AdTech, Apps, etc)[2] - Reddit Container[3] There are a few others[4] as well, but I've found the Temporary Containers solves the 80%. -- [0] - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/temporary-con... [1] - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/google-contai... [2] - https://addons.mozilla.org/en…

Do not use Temporary Containers. This extension to Multi-Account Containers looks great at first -- its Automatic mode spins up a new container each time you open a new tab, then switches that tab to an existing container, should one be associated with the TLD you visit. The problem is that Temporary Containers does not delete these temporary containers. They accumulate in the MAC containers list. There is no way to…

Huh, I have not experienced this issue, but there seem to be mixed reports in these comments. The numbers continue to count up (this is also configurable), but the containers are actually deleted.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by leecb » Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 8:02 PM UTC

moritonal wrote: post #58

mmcclure wrote: post #34

I use Firefox multi-account containers[1] extensively, it's honestly the primary reason I use Firefox these days. The big win for me is that I _hate_ having to use the Google account switcher, so I basically set up a container for each Gmail account (work, personal, old email, etc). The nice bonus feature is you can have certain sites default to containers. I had a paid YouTube account for a while, for example, so ha…

I use it to split my work and my personal GitHub accounts!

> GitHub recommends using only one user account to manage both personal and professional repositories.

https://github.community/t/using-one-account-for-all-your-pr...

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by cj » Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 8:05 PM UTC

welfare wrote: post #126

jmnicolas wrote: post #118

Browser finger printing will defeat this. I wonder how prevalent it is. Most of the sites I visit seem not to recognize me without cookies but I always wonder if it's just a "ploy" to make me feel untracked. While I'm at it, anyone has good resources on how not to be finger printed (without going full Tor browser)? Do I have to disable Javascript?

Hi, I did my thesis on browser fingerprinting. Most algorithms that build profiles and look for combinations of features that are unique. The best way to hide your fingerprint is to be as similar to everyone as possible. So that means use as much of the standards as possible that comes with the OS. Do not use anything that would not be considered mainstream (e.g. don't be the only person from Guatemala on Opera, Linu…

> The best way to hide your fingerprint is to be as similar to everyone as possible.

Ironically, this also means you should not enable your browser's "Do not track" preference.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by timbit42 » Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 8:07 PM UTC

ProAm wrote: post #6

StavrosK wrote: post #4

I'm loving Firefox Containers for various use cases, but is running Google/Facebook in them worth the extra hassle if you use uBO/Privacy Badger? It blocks all that stuff anyway.

uBO barely works on facebook these days. Try and use the element picker.

Have you looked at FBPurity?

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 8:16 PM UTC

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Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by neltnerb » Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 8:17 PM UTC

Timpy wrote: post #121

mmcclure wrote: post #34

I use Firefox multi-account containers[1] extensively, it's honestly the primary reason I use Firefox these days. The big win for me is that I _hate_ having to use the Google account switcher, so I basically set up a container for each Gmail account (work, personal, old email, etc). The nice bonus feature is you can have certain sites default to containers. I had a paid YouTube account for a while, for example, so ha…

Along with the Facebook Container I use multi-account containers to keep a Google, Microsoft, and Amazon container as well. I included all of their children companies in the parent containers (like GitHub in Microsoft, YouTube in Google). It's sobering seeing how much of the internet shows up in one of these four containers.

I use multi-account containers and temporary containers so that all my new tabs are isolated.

Is there any reason to also use facebook container if you already have multi-account containers?

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by dotancohen » Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 8:19 PM UTC

I am hard pressed to think of any other website in the 25 year history of the WWW that was so abusive of its users that web browsers had to start inventing features to protect user from it.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by welfare » Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 8:19 PM UTC

kelnos wrote: post #146

welfare wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi, I did my thesis on browser fingerprinting. Most algorithms that build profiles and look for combinations of features that are unique. The best way to hide your fingerprint is to be as similar to everyone as possible. So that means use as much of the standards as possible that comes with the OS. Do not use anything that would not be considered mainstream (e.g. don't be the only person from Guatemala on Opera, Linu…

Does changing things often also help? Like, if there was a way to set things up so the browser would randomly change (on every request, or maybe every N minutes) bits of your user-agent, font list, screen resolution, etc., would that make it harder for sites to track you?

The rate of change is of course an important factor, but some things like the order of how you installed fonts (which depends on the order you installed the software that fonts came with) or the plugins you have installed in your browser are still going to be constant.

What we saw was that people tried to spoof their UA only made it more unique. (E.g. your UA says Internet Explorer but you have Chrome specific plugins). Or even worse if you have a completely unique User Agent.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by one2know » Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 8:20 PM UTC

How does this stop facebook from tracking you? I'm fairly certain that on facebook, google, everyone, etc tracking is largely through processing request logs to gstatic.com or fbcdn.net for example with a referrer header saying what site you are visiting, your source IP and various other things to fingerprint the request.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by welfare » Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 8:21 PM UTC

cj wrote: post #183

welfare wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi, I did my thesis on browser fingerprinting. Most algorithms that build profiles and look for combinations of features that are unique. The best way to hide your fingerprint is to be as similar to everyone as possible. So that means use as much of the standards as possible that comes with the OS. Do not use anything that would not be considered mainstream (e.g. don't be the only person from Guatemala on Opera, Linu…

> The best way to hide your fingerprint is to be as similar to everyone as possible. Ironically, this also means you should not enable your browser's "Do not track" preference.

Right. In the best of worlds, websites should of course respect the "Do Not Track".