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Nvidia announces Jetson Nano 2GB, a single board computer

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Re: Nvidia announces Jetson Nano 2GB, a single board computer

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Post by postalrat »

colejohnson66 wrote: post #119
Zenst wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good retro console emulation like the N64 alone may make this a go to for many.

For the price, you might as well do a Mister FPGA build using the DE10-Nano. That’s ~$140 versus the $200 for the Jetson Nano here. And the Mister FPGA, being FPGA based, can avoid most slowdowns software based emulators would have.

Add on sram, expansion board, usb hub, and it gets to be a bit more than $140.

I'm hoping someday we can get something like mister on the pano logic boards. You can find 2nd gen ones on ebay for $15 or so and have usb, dvi, audio, and I believe a more powerful fpga. All in a solid metal case.

Re: Nvidia announces Jetson Nano 2GB, a single board computer

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Post by fulafel »

nobrains wrote: post #5

What are the use-cases for a GPU-accelerated single board computer?

Does this run a stock distribution and a distro provided stock kernel such as Ubuntu? If not, how good are the security updates and for how long does NVidia commit to providing them?

Re: Nvidia announces Jetson Nano 2GB, a single board computer

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Post by peter_d_sherman »

Strange Idea:

Someone could use this SBC -- not as an SBC, but as a discrete video card...

That is, have a computer without a video card -- communicate with this SBC via USB or Ethernet -- and have it perform all of the functions of a video card to generate the display output...

After all, it's got quite a high power GPU in it...

Yes, it would be a bit slower than a PCIe based high-end graphics card... this idea is for experimentation only.

One idea, once this is done, is to decouple the GUI part of any Operating System you write -- and have that part, and that part alone, run on the SBC / GPU.

Yes, X-Windows/X11 already exists and can do something like this.

But if say, you (as an OS designer) felt that X-Windows was too complex and bloated, and you wanted to implement something similar to Windows' GUI -- but a lighter version, and decoupled from the base Operating System -- then what I've outlined above might be one way to set things up while the coding is occurring...

Again, doing something like this would be for people that wanted to experiment, only...

Re: Nvidia announces Jetson Nano 2GB, a single board computer

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Post by jcelerier »

ricktdotorg wrote: post #178
jcelerier wrote: post #148

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> We are too busy focusing on delivering value to the business there are a lot more linux users out there than business users

> there are a lot more linux users out there than business users maybe, but there are a LOT more linux servers out there than linux users, if by "linux users" you meant "people running linux on their computers". those servers (and the people that run them) generally require stability. would you care explaining what you mean? is it not fair to say that there are many orders of magnitude more instances of linux running…

It makes as much sense for me to count individual servers than to count individual docker containers. It's the amount of people administering those systems which matters - having many servers to manage just means that you have to know how to setup automation

Re: Nvidia announces Jetson Nano 2GB, a single board computer

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Post by m463 »

chunkyks wrote: post #42

I have a Jetson nano. It's a nice thing for what it is, and the price. But, the software misses the mark by a lot. It's still based on Ubuntu 18.04. Want python later than 3.6? Not in the box. A lot of python modules need compiling, and the cpu is what you'd expect. Good for what it is, bad for compiling large numbers or packages. They run a fancy modern desktop based on the Ubuntu one. Sure, it's Nvidia, gotta be fl…

I think there are (in general) two models that work.

1) ubuntu lts - stable releases - I'm a server person I want nothing to change, ever.

2) arch linux - rolling releases - I'm a desktop person, I want the latest of everything, now.

anything between these two extremes kind of sucks, both as a developer and as a user.

advantages:

1: "Q: I want to disable snapd on ubuntu 18.04, how do I do it?"

"A: "

1: "user: something isn't working"

"developer: clearly your fault, I haven't changed anything in that project in 4 months"

2: "Q: I want to disable snapd on arch linux, how do I do it?"

"A: why did you install it? look on the wiki."

2: "user: something isn't working"

"developer: everything is up-to-date, please do pacman -Syu and read the wiki"

Re: Nvidia announces Jetson Nano 2GB, a single board computer

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Post by dingaling »

barumi wrote: post #115
jcelerier wrote: post #83

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> Want python later than 3.6? Not in the box. The more I use linux (and I'v been for almost 15 years), the more strongly believe that using what the Linux distros provide as a development toolchain is an antipattern. Use separate toolchains with SDKs separate from your /usr instead. > Good for what it is, bad for compiling large numbers or packages. at worst you can docker run -it aarch64/ubuntu on your desktop and c…

> The more I use linux (and I'v been for almost 15 years), the more strongly believe that using what the Linux distros provide as a development toolchain is an antipattern. Your assertion makes no sense. Let me explain why. You've adopted a LTS release which was made public 2 years ago, was already a couple of years in the making, and is aimed at establishing a solid and reliable base system that can be targetted by…

> and is aimed at establishing a solid and reliable base system

Excellent, I have a solid base.

Now I want to install the latest version of Gimp. Cannot. Why is that tied to the base versioning?

Re: Nvidia announces Jetson Nano 2GB, a single board computer

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Post by soylentgraham »

talkingtab wrote: post #53

I have the 4GB version of the Nano and the 4GB Raspberry Pi. I like the Nano, but I use it mostly as a development machine and for that I would rank the 8GB Raspberry Pi at about $89 US the best deal. Substantially below that is the Nano, and almost tied is 4GB Pi. There may be cases where you absolutely need an Nvidia machine in which case I would argue for the 4GB version, but otherwise the 8GB Pi appears to be the…

Nvidia's video decoder/encoder is noticeably faster too

Re: Nvidia announces Jetson Nano 2GB, a single board computer

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Post by soylentgraham »

shiftpgdn wrote: post #40
nl wrote: post #26

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I guess that's true, but many projects I see use USB power banks for arduinos and I don't think this is too different.

The 4GB Jetson will run off a micro-usb port (for power banks) OR the barrel adapter.

4gb one over micro-usb real needs to be in 5w mode disabling 2/4 cpus. Running off usb-c at 15w where I can use all 4 is a big improvement for convinience for me.

Re: Nvidia announces Jetson Nano 2GB, a single board computer

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Post by my123 »

varispeed wrote: post #171
detaro wrote: post #35

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They are literally development kits for the embedded chips and modules NVidia sells. What you prototype on a dev kit you can easily transfer to production hardware that incorporates those modules. And if you just do CUDA experiments with it, those transfer at least partially to other environments (e.g. desktop/server hardware with GPUs) too. Where do you get the idea this isn't transferable?

I tried to find any documentation, schematics, code and I can't see it anywhere on that website.

You didn't even try.

https://developer.nvidia.com/embedded/downloads

Re: Nvidia announces Jetson Nano 2GB, a single board computer

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Post by barumi »

dingaling wrote: post #186
barumi wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The more I use linux (and I'v been for almost 15 years), the more strongly believe that using what the Linux distros provide as a development toolchain is an antipattern. Your assertion makes no sense. Let me explain why. You've adopted a LTS release which was made public 2 years ago, was already a couple of years in the making, and is aimed at establishing a solid and reliable base system that can be targetted by…

> and is aimed at establishing a solid and reliable base system Excellent, I have a solid base. Now I want to install the latest version of Gimp. Cannot. Why is that tied to the base versioning?

Why do you believe you can't? Because, I mean, you can.
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