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Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by Answerawake »

beagle3 wrote: post #138
drewg123 wrote: post #122

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And sadly, you need to trade your freedom for your privacy with AppleTV. I have a shield so that I can sideload apps like NewPipe and Kodi. I wish AppleTV would allow side-loading apps. That would be the best of both worlds.

Apple TV does let you. You just have to reload them once a week, or factor an additional $100 into the price to only do that only once a year.

Is a there a good collection of Idevice apps somewhere that we can take and compile and use for this purpose? I am starting to go down the path of making my own simple versions of popular apps like Twitter or pulling the backend apis of other apps for stores all in an effort to remove as much tracking as I can while still keeping functionality.

For example, there is a popular convenience store app that gives discounts on items such as coffee but in addition to the standard tracking, I also discovered code that indicates they are using bluetooth beacons to do in store tracking. Instead I am pulling their api to fetch the deals so I can ditch the app. Would be great if there is an existing collection so I can ditch more official apps more easily.

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by Answerawake »

bostik wrote: post #84
gtsteve wrote: post #10

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A smart TV can be a dumb TV if you never connect it to the internet and just plug in whatever you want to it via HDMI. I have a 'smart' TV myself and the only buttons I use on the remote are power and input select. It's never seen the internet since I've had it. I'm sure it's only a matter of time before these TVs require 'activation' and frequent 'reactivation' before you can use them though. Alternatively they may…

> Alternatively they may perhaps start connecting to cellular networks, which would be a lot harder to evade. Just wait until 5G is ubiquitous and new TVs come with embedded cellular modems in them. They they won't need to piggy-back on your standard internet connection anymore. Feel free to vomit.

Unplug the modems. They connect to internal antennas don't they?

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by vb6sp6 »

Phillips126 wrote: post #128

I spent around $1,200 on my 4K HDR Samsung TV a few years ago. It was great, but lately has been unbearably slow and frustrating to the point where we'd stop watching TV in the living room all together. Not a great experience. To try to remedy the issue (knowing it was slowed down by the disgusting ad platform), I installed a Pi Hole in the house to see if that would alleviate the problem. The TV felt a bit less clun…

> The Pi Hole statistics were terrifying at around 12,000 blocked Samsung requests per day (around 6-7 hours of shared TV usage)

The stats can be misleading. It's just trying over and over again when it has a failure. If the first attempt was successful, you would have a lot less requests.

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by ogre_codes »

nostromo wrote: post #163
TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #104

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> If you own an Internet-connected TV, you've been seeing these for 2 years or more How to prevent all Samsung tracking and advertising: 1. Factory reset your Samsung TV. 2. When promoted to accept the Samsung EULA, select no/reject 3. Attach computer or streaming stick to Samsung HDMI port (Windows, mac, chromebook, appleTV, chromecast, Amazon Firestick, Roku stick). I use an ancient PC with Linux Mint installed. Yo…

1. Turn off your Samsung TV's internet connection 2. Connect Apple TV via HDMI Not only does this improve your privacy, but it improves the UI and remote of your TV.

> Not only does this improve your privacy, but it improves the UI and remote of your TV.

Two out of three anyhow... the Apple TV remote is pretty mediocre. Gets rid of a lot of junk I never use, and a bunch of stuff I really miss (the mute button for starters).

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by grey_earthling »

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #104
troydavis wrote: post #34

If you own an Internet-connected TV, you've been seeing these for 2 years or more. I submitted it 11 months ago ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21427405 ) and it wasn't new then. The ACR-based retargeting audiences ( https://www.samsung.com/us/business/samsungads/resources/tv-... ) are probably the most offensive. For example: "Reach viewers who saw your competitor’s ads as quickly as 60 seconds after linear a…

> If you own an Internet-connected TV, you've been seeing these for 2 years or more How to prevent all Samsung tracking and advertising: 1. Factory reset your Samsung TV. 2. When promoted to accept the Samsung EULA, select no/reject 3. Attach computer or streaming stick to Samsung HDMI port (Windows, mac, chromebook, appleTV, chromecast, Amazon Firestick, Roku stick). I use an ancient PC with Linux Mint installed. Yo…

Tangent: what interface do you use instead of Kodi etc?

On my (Silverblue) laptop I've been using a simple video player (Celluloid), youtube_dl/get_iplayer/bashpodder, plus a bash script to select and play the “next” episode.

That works nicely for recorded/downloaded audio and video, but doesn't address live streams.

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Post by WrtCdEvrydy »

overlordalex wrote: post #166
_2d30 wrote: post #154

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Or just like not even connect it to the internet at all?

There's reports of some models connecting to any open wifi networks, which would include your neighbours. And it's only a matter of time until they come with built-in sim cards

Free Internet... just buy this shitty TV, and return it :P

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Post by TacticalTable »

snarfy wrote: post #29

Samsung really needs to just flush their entire software division. It's all garbage. Their android software is a frustrating joke. Tizen is a hot mess. Every issue I've ever had with a samsung product was with their software, and it's why I've sworn off the brand as a whole.

I had been getting frustrated with my Oneplus and upgrade to an S10, and every once in awhile I wish that I hadn't. It's death by a thousand cuts, from engineers and management who have no respect for the user. Off the top of my head, within the past week, I've had:

* The wifi slows down to Obviously all of these problems can be fixed, and many aren't exclusive to samsung, but dealing with all of them continuously is just grating. I had been planning to buy a Samsung Frame TV before I heard all this stuff about their ads.

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by TedDoesntTalk »

nostromo wrote: post #163
TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #104

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> If you own an Internet-connected TV, you've been seeing these for 2 years or more How to prevent all Samsung tracking and advertising: 1. Factory reset your Samsung TV. 2. When promoted to accept the Samsung EULA, select no/reject 3. Attach computer or streaming stick to Samsung HDMI port (Windows, mac, chromebook, appleTV, chromecast, Amazon Firestick, Roku stick). I use an ancient PC with Linux Mint installed. Yo…

1. Turn off your Samsung TV's internet connection 2. Connect Apple TV via HDMI Not only does this improve your privacy, but it improves the UI and remote of your TV.

Samsung can still try to connect to open WiFi networks. Not accepting the EULA makes this irrelevant.

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by tk75x »

lostlogin wrote: post #152
hyperman1 wrote: post #119

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It's wilfull. They havecto live ib denial, or they don't have a job. I know someone who started a job at a tobacco company. He went from 'of course they cause cancer, you're an idiot if you smoke' to 'everybody dies from something, it's not that bad, the media are against us, it's inconclusive'. He still won't smoke, though.

I’ve noticed the same with those who work for weapons manufacturers. The perspective changes a lot when the money is good or the mortgage is large.

I would rather not work for a company that contracts to the government, but here I am paying my student loans with their money because that's the job that was available.

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Post by MaxikCZ »

karolist wrote: post #174
dr_zoidberg wrote: post #129

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Last TV I bought the salesperson wanted to push a Samsung TV on me, despite my very clear telling of "I dislike samsung". Guy insisted over and over and over. Ended up in the store opposite the mall, where Good Salesman approaches as I walk in: -I want a new TV. -I have this great Samsung model. -I hate Samsung. -I have this great LG model! Funny thing, the that TV came with webOS, which after being bought and sold o…

LG makes great TVs, they were one of the last manufacturers to stop doing plasma. My 2015 50" (50PN5300) 1080p plasma screen is only rivaled by new OLEDs, doubles as a space heater in winter time :) This one still has their old Netcast OS. The newer webOs models with magic remote that you can use as a pointer are super nice too, but admittedly my 43UJ701V sometimes does reboot it self, the old Netcast plasma is rock…

Cant share my enthusiasm for LG TVs. We have one not yet smart model from around 2015. Over few software updates it got itself to state where the TV is totally unresponsive to any remote input for up to 1 minute after starting, including volume buttons. If you happen to turn the TV off with high volume from a quiet film, you gonna stand there listening to loud ads next time you run it, and hate every second of it.

The EPG button starts a process that takes about 10 secons everytime to get to actual EPG (screen black and sound stops, epg loading pic, loading finished animation, epg core lines, epg loading data, epg filling up the data, epg resumes playback in a small window inside the epg). Every single time. It shows you 6 channels, and if you keep pressing down you get stuck on a down arrow. Pressing down on a down arrow wont show you next 6 channels, you gotta press down button on remote to get to down arrow in menu, and then press center to actuate the down arrow in the menu. Horrendous.

The only sane way to sort channels is to make a backup of settings on USB, edit the textfile on your PC, and load it back. This I only found out by chance and desperation, even LG support denied any other option than to manually press "move up/down" button on a each channel you want to move for 30+ times to get it where you want.

Factory reset doesnt help, support doesnt help, nothing helps. I will never buy LG TV again.

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