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Amnesty International India Halts Its Work in India Due to Government Reprisal

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I wonder how did muslims became majority in kashmir? Do you know? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus_of_Kashmiri_Hindus Now that the these refugees are coming back o their motherland, propagandists are busy labelling it as hindu occupation and minority oppression.

Globally, Hindus are a minority. So whether its a liberal or conservative foreigner(Christian or Muslim), to them Muslims are usually a minority. And foreigners are easily susceptible to believe the claims of Muslims being a minority without even checking the realities. Tthey almost always fail to understand that it is Hindus who is the real minority in Jammu and Kashmir. Morevoer, Christians and Muslims are of Abhra…

Did you even bother to read the comment he was responding to?

"About 10% of India's population is muslim however in Kashmir they are a majority"

They acknowledge that Muslims are a majority in J&K.

Your response is not really related and is more revealing of your own insecurities.

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Not discounting the negative effects of the nationalism, but I don't think caste system is behind the current rise of nationalism. The prime minister himself is from the lower caste.

Would it surprise you to hear that there are many women in India who support for existing misogynistic aspects of traditional culture? It's hard for people to understand how deeply woven caste-based motivations are in Indian society. At a large scale it may seem like some globally stratified layer cake. On the ground, it devolves into regional tribes. The "caste associations" rural people associate themselves with in…

which women, and which "misogynistic aspects"?

Re: Amnesty International India Halts Its Work in India Due to Government Reprisal

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I wonder how did muslims became majority in kashmir? Do you know? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus_of_Kashmiri_Hindus Now that the these refugees are coming back o their motherland, propagandists are busy labelling it as hindu occupation and minority oppression.

What about the refugees from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947_Jammu_massacres ?

I hope you read atleast one paragraph from that article.

Also depending on how far you want to back in history, you would find that kashmir went of 0% muslim to majority muslim.

Re: Amnesty International India Halts Its Work in India Due to Government Reprisal

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> Hindu nationalism is just like any nationalism. There is a fundamental difference Indian nationalism and other countries nationalism. Indian nationalism is all about bringing back the "varna system" which advocates stratification of society based on the birth and access to education is only allowed for the brahmins(priestly caste). This was the system implemented strictly before the Britishers arrived to India. No…

Any source on the motives of Indian nationalism for the "strict implementation" of varna system?

50% Ministers in Modi regime are Brahmin; And Brahmin are just 3% in India; https://www.quora.com/Which-caste-is-looting-India/answers/2...

Re: Amnesty International India Halts Its Work in India Due to Government Reprisal

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Lol you need to stop reading biased media outlets. It’s our bad luck that none of the outlets are fair sided these days. Tune into an Indian news channel and validate your free press claims, you will see why nytimes is biased.

> Tune into an Indian news channel Can you name a single unbiased channel?

I didn’t say Indian channels are biased or aren’t biased, my point was on freedom of press and how they don’t hesitate to ask or harass the govt or people alike. Re read my point

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>> which advocates stratification of society based on the birth Not a unique to Indian nationalism. American nationalism is very similar. See the "birther" movement. Or the president's push to withdraw birth right citizenship, a concept that would deny far more than just education. Or the references to "anchor babies". The location of one's birthplace, and the birthplace of one's parents, is of fundamental importance…

Ironic given that Donald Trumps grandfather was an immigrant - and German immigrants where subject to discrimination.

How is that ironic?

Re: Amnesty International India Halts Its Work in India Due to Government Reprisal

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Amnesty international and other Western NGOs are moral sticks of rich countries to browbeat erstwhile colonies for not maintaining high living standards post exploitation.

NGOs typically do a lot of harm. They're the means by which high income countries enforce policies that keep developing countries in debt to them, in order to extract resources.

The 2011 book "The Dictator's Handbook" does a good job of detailing how this works.

Re: Amnesty International India Halts Its Work in India Due to Government Reprisal

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Your line of questioning tells me you have little to no knowledge, period. Visit India and figure it out yourself. Comparing India to SA or Bowtswana tells me that You weren’t taught well, so not your fault, it’s ok, there is still time for you to go back to school.

Shucks... so sad I am unschooled. > Comparing India to SA or Bowtswana Have you been to Botswana? It is a pretty modern nation and a well run country. Lets look at some numbers and COMPARE. GDP per capita (2017): India: $1,980 Botswana: $7,894 China: $8,612 Botswana: has a better GDP/capita AND higher ranked democracy than India. Less corruption too (if you look it up). Always good to school yourself - with facts.

So you look at GDP as the one factor to determine your facts. The fact that you are comparing a Country with 2.5 million People vs a country with 1.3 billion people tells me more about you than I need to.

Trying to school others on numbers and gets schooled himself on what the word compare means. Not your fault. It’s ok you will learn in time

Re: Amnesty International India Halts Its Work in India Due to Government Reprisal

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I assume you are probably an NRI. This is well know to natives. Most of the BJP leaders are former RSS members including modi. Source https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-29593336 RSS ideology is to make india a hindu religous state. Hinduism is based on the vedic books which advocate varna system.

Amazing to see an authentic source like the BBC! It is the same publication that cannot complete any ISRO/Science related article without highlighting first how poor india is! So, if your source about RSS is BBC then good luck about having a non-biased conversation. You are part of the cliched narrative builders.

Funny, just to check I picked 5 random BBC articles about ISRO off Google search. 3 didn't mention anything like that, one said arguments that India shouldn't invest in space tech are misguided and one cited low salaries as part of why the project was so impressively cheap compared to western programs. That doesn't seem particularly worthy of outrage?
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