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Mexican states are moving to ban the sale of junk food to children

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Re: Mexican states are moving to ban the sale of junk food to children

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Post by biddit »

cpursley wrote: post #159

It's interesting how quick people are to blame US corporations when it's the US government that subsidizes cheap carbs through the farm subsidy program (and on the flip-size in the US, subsidize the purchase of junk food via food stamps). Also, banning sales to children doesn't solve the real culprit - parents buying the junk food for their own children. At least in America, watch any parent fill up their carts and p…

How much of that government policy was created in reaction to lobbying by corporations though?

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Post by boredpudding »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #160
jeffreyrogers wrote: post #86

This is a good idea, and the people in the comments are rightly pointing out sugar's problems. But just as problematic as sugar are vegetable oils which are in almost every packaged product you can buy at the grocery store. They cause all sorts of health problems because the vegetable oils are extremely reactive (due to being unsaturated fats and so having double bonds that can react with other molecules inside your…

That goes against everything I've been told about the types of fats. How much evidence is there for this?

Or even at least a source would be nice.

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Post by Daishiman »

controversy wrote: post #110
navailable wrote: post #39

Covid shows that governments who fail to encourage nutritious diets will end up with higher healthcare costs.

It’s not just encourage. What we’re finding is that the government has to be authoritarian. China welded people into their homes to keep them from spreading COVID. They literally caged them like animals and threw them into trucks. Now Mexico is denying children potato chips. Think about universal healthcare and alcohol. How much money is spent on alcohol related issues? The best answer is to ban its sale. Same for to…

There's a difference between allowing adults and children to consume things. Children have limited agency and we consider it a social duty to protect them from some of life's extremes until they're better capable of understanding the consequences of their actions.

You don't have to ban things not be authoritarian. Smart governments just price in externalities, which is why you slap tobacco and alcohol with extra taxes to offset the increased costs of health care and reduced adult lifetimes.

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Post by dylan604 »

lhorie wrote: post #79
inasio wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's for the whole of Mexico, so more than an order of magnitude off (120 million). Still an insane number of murders, what a tragedy.

Ah good catch. Thanks. So we're looking at >99.9% of the population not committing murders.

Doesn't that stat just mean that >99.9% of population has not been murdered. It says nothing to the number of people doing the murdering. It could be a single individual on a massive serial spree, or an individual murder per killing which I find just as unlikely. The point is, your stat isn't stating what you think it is

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Post by asveikau »

s5300 wrote: post #178
asveikau wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you not see that anecdata is also sometimes correlated with real data? That we may be able to look around us and at life experience and observe real trends? Here's what I get from some quick googling. Decline in underage drinking, 1991-2013: https://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/surveillance101/Unde... Youth use of cigarettes declining (though I believe I have read that vaping counter-acts this trend when lookin…

Both of your links seem to have to do with the United States and I was more specifically commenting towards they who are apparently the arbitrator of "cool and uncool"

Yes, I personally am talking only about the US in this thread. From what I have personally seen of Europeans younger than I am, for example, it seems like they are much more likely to smoke cigarettes than an American of the same age.

Since the article is about Mexico... I have spent substantial time in Spanish speaking places. But I am unaware of current trends in Mexico, haven't been there in particular since 2006. Probably lots of smokers. Latin America tends to have more smoking than here too. I suppose they did invent the stuff.

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Post by partyboat1586 »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #160
jeffreyrogers wrote: post #86

This is a good idea, and the people in the comments are rightly pointing out sugar's problems. But just as problematic as sugar are vegetable oils which are in almost every packaged product you can buy at the grocery store. They cause all sorts of health problems because the vegetable oils are extremely reactive (due to being unsaturated fats and so having double bonds that can react with other molecules inside your…

That goes against everything I've been told about the types of fats. How much evidence is there for this?

Take it for what it is: http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/unsaturated-oils.shtml

Re: Mexican states are moving to ban the sale of junk food to children

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Post by xtracto »

jeffreyrogers wrote: post #86

This is a good idea, and the people in the comments are rightly pointing out sugar's problems. But just as problematic as sugar are vegetable oils which are in almost every packaged product you can buy at the grocery store. They cause all sorts of health problems because the vegetable oils are extremely reactive (due to being unsaturated fats and so having double bonds that can react with other molecules inside your…

I've read that Safflower oil or Avocado oil are one of the healthiest oils to cook. Safflower oil is supposedly even good for you. As with everything, moderation is a key factor.

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Post by liability »

jachell wrote: post #175
s5300 wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is incorrect. Honestly - I can't blame anybody who could be found lurking, let alone posting on hackers news to think there's no way that this isn't common sense. However, it's not. It's really, unfortunately, very far from it in the U.S. I now cannot easily find it (at least in a brief search on Google) because of recent bullshit regarding the keywords, but a few years back, there was a medical case that briefl…

I don't appreciate the condescending tone. "2013 nationally representative phone survey of about 2000 subjects showed that one-fifth of Americans thought FF was good for health, whereas two-thirds considered FF not good. Even over two-thirds of weekly FF consumers (47% of the total population) thought FF not good." Note: FF = fast food https://academic.oup.com/advances/article/9/5/590/5062131 There's also this scene…

> one-fifth of Americans thought FF was good for health

I wonder what portion of Americans have a troll mentality and will say stupid shit to pollers just for fun. Probably not far off one in five...

Re: Mexican states are moving to ban the sale of junk food to children

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Post by mam2 »

jeffreyrogers wrote: post #86

This is a good idea, and the people in the comments are rightly pointing out sugar's problems. But just as problematic as sugar are vegetable oils which are in almost every packaged product you can buy at the grocery store. They cause all sorts of health problems because the vegetable oils are extremely reactive (due to being unsaturated fats and so having double bonds that can react with other molecules inside your…

the problem is the lack of understanding of CICO in the CULTUREof the country.

Any other explanation is hiding the truth for some half-reasoning which mich the real point

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