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Why is there only one Snap Store?

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Re: Why is there only one Snap Store?

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What year is this? Linux desktop experience is fantastic in 2020. It has been for several years. That's bordering FUD you're spreading.

My experience aligns far more with parent's than yours. The Linux Desktop experience is still pretty garbage.

Let’s hear some specific examples.

Re: Why is there only one Snap Store?

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Look up how you type: those • characters I used in my post, an m-dash (—), a c-cedilla (ç), a german double-S (ß), basic accented characters for various Western European languages (we have many, many loan words and phrases from those in English—façade, résumé, áñ∂ §ò öñ), punctuation for French and Spanish (no, you don't strictly need these for English—but in practice, depending on the register you're writing in, act…

> Look up how you type: those • characters I used in my post, an m-dash (—), a c-cedilla (ç), a german double-S (ß), basic accented characters for various Western European languages No thanks! I already new how to type — (Compose - - -), and I was able to guess how to type the others simply by trial and error in less time than it would take to duck/google how to type them: Compose + . + - → · (close enough for me Edi…

Great! Linux, I assume? goes looking OK yep, I'll enable it and start re-training myself on that, for when I'm not on mac. It's not quite as quick for most of the things I need frequently, but seems tolerable.

Remaining questions: 1) why would the default be bad? Like, why ever would one make a default bad if there are non-bad options? Especially for something everyone should want to be good on a computer, like composing text in the user's language, and 2) ugh of course even once enabled the default compose key is bad (there's a theme here) and both enabling it and configuring it depends on which WM/DE you're in, Wayland vs. Xorg, and so on, and from some googling it's even possible to run into inconsistent behavior between different friggin' GUI toolkits under the same DE.

OK that second one is a comment, not a question. Still.

I'd recently googled the problem of (specifically) typing an em-dash on Linux, and just tried it again, and sure enough this solution doesn't come up until the sixth hit, in an unassuming Google documentation style guide. "Just memorize a 4-digit number" is the overwhelming answer to that question, on search engines, for some reason, despite plainly being awful. Maybe the configuration hurdle and bad default behavior is why that's the go-to solution, I dunno.

[EDIT] none of the above irritation aimed at you, I hope is clear, and sincerely, thanks for the pointer.

Re: Why is there only one Snap Store?

#183

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Yeah, I get there are other reasons people choose Linux—I do too, as I find Win10 intolerable as a working environment so if I'm not on Apple hardware, Linux is my only realistic option for getting things done while still being able to interact alright with the world outside my own computer. I just think that's a small set of the reasons one might find any Linux OS to represent a serious loss of functionality, versus…

Unfortunately I don’t use GNU/Linux on the go enough to give you a good answer. Surf specifically is probably not good for battery life and now I realize I probably shouldn't have brought it up in this context, because it spawns a separate process per window/tab — it’s noticeably slower than any other browser I’ve used. But GNOME Web/Epiphany though does seem lighter than FF from my limited use of it, worth testing.…

Palemoon looks pretty good. May give that a shot, thanks.

Re: Why is there only one Snap Store?

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To be completely honest, if Canonical ever wants the theoretical "year of the Linux desktop" to happen, they need a way to get proper cloud accounts working. A big part of the value of Apple's ecosystem is iCloud. Microsoft has done the same thing with the syncing and cross platform capabilities of their Microsoft Accounts. Most Linux users today don't care much if they need to create separate email, cloud storage, b…

My “cloud account“ is on linode and it’s cheaper, less of a hassle, and more feature complete than Microsoft’s/google’s/apple’s offerings.

Nope - setting up an iCloud account is filling in a username and password. Your approach doesn’t even come close to being anywhere near that easy.

Re: Why is there only one Snap Store?

#185

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What year is this? Linux desktop experience is fantastic in 2020. It has been for several years. That's bordering FUD you're spreading.

My experience aligns far more with parent's than yours. The Linux Desktop experience is still pretty garbage.

I'm thinking it's been a few years, and/or you and the parent decided to install arch/gentoo instead of ubuntu/fedora.

Re: Why is there only one Snap Store?

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Yes, auto-updates are built into snap. Also, the "solutions" to disable it are pretty much workarounds [1]. All this looks like just what made me stop using windows 10. [1]: https://askubuntu.com/questions/930593/how-to-disable-autore...

Sigh. I'm a developer that is on early-version binaries often, and need to keep them frozen and update them manually. I shouldn't have to default to compiling from source. Can I bypass snap entirely without major issues? I like Ubuntu, but indeed, I left Windows 10 officially due to auto-updates.

Try Pop!_OS. It's boils down to Ubuntu, but without snap and with better NVIDIA support.

Re: Why is there only one Snap Store?

#187

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What year is this? Linux desktop experience is fantastic in 2020. It has been for several years. That's bordering FUD you're spreading.

My experience aligns far more with parent's than yours. The Linux Desktop experience is still pretty garbage.

Here is an example : take an Intel nuc : Ubuntu, everything works out of box. Win10 ? Let's download a WiFi driver on Intel site ! Let's hope you have Ethernet or a windows 10 supported wifi device. And no, the wifi dongle lying around is too old, windows 7 only...

What is your example ?

Re: Why is there only one Snap Store?

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> Look up how you type: those • characters I used in my post, an m-dash (—), a c-cedilla (ç), a german double-S (ß), basic accented characters for various Western European languages No thanks! I already new how to type — (Compose - - -), and I was able to guess how to type the others simply by trial and error in less time than it would take to duck/google how to type them: Compose + . + - → · (close enough for me Edi…

Great! Linux, I assume? goes looking OK yep, I'll enable it and start re-training myself on that, for when I'm not on mac. It's not quite as quick for most of the things I need frequently, but seems tolerable. Remaining questions: 1) why would the default be bad? Like, why ever would one make a default bad if there are non-bad options? Especially for something everyone should want to be good on a computer, like compo…

I imagine it defaults to off and the top results recommend the Control-Shift-U because otherwise people switching from Windows would complain. It’s my understanding that on Windows typing these characters involves holding down Alt while typing arbitrary Windows-specific numbers on your number pad (What happens if you don’t have one? I’ve no idea!) — or more intuitively, opening a new browser tab, Googling the name of the character, copying it with a keyboard shortcut or context menu (I hate leaving X11 and not being able to simply highlight text and middle click to paste!), and pasting.

All distros I've seen allow you to choose a keyboard layout (and I think at least usually AltGr) at first boot, and I imagine this is how most people using primarily non-English type quickly, on any OS. I personally just use a little WM/DE agnostic script to make capslock useful and add a Compose key:

    #!/bin/sh
    setxkbmap -option caps:super
    xcape -e 'Super_L=Escape'
    setxkbmap -option compose:sclk
... and ‘xcape -e 'Shift_L=Multi_key'’ to make tapping Shift work as Compose (xcape is installed by a little bootstrapping script I run when I clone my dotfile repo). But this is better for me because I mostly use Compose for little things like curling my apostraphes (Compose + + ' or " → ‘,’,“, or ”), not so many characters that it needs to be perfectly fast. I don’t have a monitor set-up that’s nonstandard in anything but aspect ratio, or use native apps I don’t trust (like Snaps), so I’ve never had a use for Wayland.

[EDIT] No problem, you’re welcome!

Re: Why is there only one Snap Store?

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That reminds me of the stake Ubuntu Core was born with in its heart: > An Ubuntu SSO account is required to create the first user on an Ubuntu Core installation. They just keep flinging shit at nothing and hoping to hit a wall they can build a gate in. They're trying to boil the frog slowly with Snap on the Server/Desktop branches. There is no possible genuine motive for these maneuverings to be in the position of ga…

Canonical doesn't seem to understand that if I wanted a gate-kept system, there are plenty of better, non-Linux options in this world. Canonical seems to have forgotten why Linux exists to begin with.

Canonical is betting on there being people who want to run some Linux exclusive software but don't care about idealism.

Edit: In hindsight I think this comment was too cynical. I like canonical mostly.

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