I don’t understand why stories like this get thru, but other extremely relevent/interesting stories like medical data related to COVID get absolutely no coverage. Is “China Censorship” so relevant to HN that even an NBA-related story is okay?
The NBA bans customers from putting ‘freehongkong’ on customized league jerseys
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> Chinese ethnic minorities visiting Beijing are themselves something of a tourist attraction; tour guides leading Westerners around point and stare and talk about those minorities sort of the way you'd point and stare and talk about a wild animal you found roaming the streets. On a related note, in the 2008 Olympics in Beijing, China saw fit to have the flag be brought in by 56 children wearing the traditional costu…
>They were all Han. dumb question: is it possible to tell?
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#183This mass censorship that we are living in allows and promotes all sorts of manifestations of the so called anti-racism white over black. It's of interest to the controlling regime to do so.
But, when there are manifestations against the totalitarism, they are forbidden. Because, again, the deep govern owns the political, economical, mass-media and so forth all over the world.
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>Chinese people who study abroad are more often confused by the things missing in the west than they are liberated in the way you describe, in my experience. As someone who has never been to China could you list some things the West is missing?
Public transportation, affordable healthcare, & weechat are all things that are significantly better in China. — An American that spent a few weeks in China.
Transportation, not healthcare. High speed rail is ridiculously good, it connects just about every major Chinese city, it’s affordable, very comfortable and fast. I would consider healthcare an exception, it may be affordable but outside of a few expensive clinics in Beijing and Shanghai it’s really bad. Mobile payments are way ahead of other places (you can pay any random person you meet instantly with your phone, and that’s been the case for at least 5 years). Any kind of logistics/delivery (food, online shopping, post etc) is very fast and cheap and this has a lot of flow-on effects in terms of convenience and lifestyle.
Basic research in (for example) AI is probably on par with the west, I think it’s fair to say the engineering/applied side is ahead. This is helped by essentially zero concern for privacy = more data. WeChat translate CN-EN is miles ahead of Google. Any kind of large scale tech that has anything to do with surveillance, things like CV, deep-packet inspection, would be unmatched I’d say.
It’s definitely not free of racism.
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Your comment is about 15 years out of date. There isn’t much that is “excellent beyond what is available” in China anymore. This type of thinking is why western foreign policy continues to get China totally wrong. Chinese people who study abroad are more often confused by the things missing in the west than they are liberated in the way you describe, in my experience.
What about clean drinking water and clean air? I certainly missed that in China.
The air quality has actually improved a lot in recent years, and I’d expect that trend to continue. The govt is putting a lot of emphasis on it recently. But yeah, it’s still pretty bad.
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> The NBA has a bigger fanbase in China than in the USA. Só what? Why should that dictate what letters I can or cannot put o the custom jersey I buy myself and pay with my own money?
> Why should that dictate what letters I can or cannot put o the custom jersey I buy myself and pay with my own money? Because the PRC will cut them off if they allow this, and the USA won't if they don't. And, so, serving the interest of capital says “knuckle under to the PRC”. This is also why Hollywood movie studios do the same thing, and all kinds of other industries. A neoliberal international order where major…
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>The increasing censorship within China leaves less and less opportunity for the greater Chinese population to learn about the capabilities of other countries. Most of my friends back in China, especially devs, use VPN daily. Many Chinese learn English via English media or TV shows. check this out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_English-s... >The CCP news tells me how terrible the USA is, yet, the…
> Most of my friends back in China, especially devs, use VPN daily This is such a tired argument. You've got a tiny percent of the population with the ability to proxy out of China. You cannot easily share the information you find with non-VPN friends. Not even with VPN-enabled friends. Sharing any politically sensitive info under your identity is a big no-no. I once did an experiment on Weibo and posted screenshots…
>You've got a tiny percent of the population with the ability to proxy out of China.
do you have data to back your claim up?
>You cannot easily share the information you find with non-VPN friends.
We talk in person, during lunch or on dinner tables, in office. When we talk politics online we invent new words to avoid auto detection. The recent hot topic is this: https://www.reddit.com/r/China_irl/comments/hp8z29/%E7%8E%8B...
basically some guy got detained because he whistleblowed something food safety related. We talk politics, in ways you normally wont imagine. But not the politics you expect.
>Xinjiang concentration camps. That's an interesting topic because most Chinese dont care when you shove it into their throats in one way or another. If you used Weibo, I wonder do you have Chinese friends? Have you asked their opinion about those camps?
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#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
Public transportation, affordable healthcare, & weechat are all things that are significantly better in China. — An American that spent a few weeks in China.
Transportation, not healthcare. High speed rail is ridiculously good, it connects just about every major Chinese city, it’s affordable, very comfortable and fast. I would consider healthcare an exception, it may be affordable but outside of a few expensive clinics in Beijing and Shanghai it’s really bad. Mobile payments are way ahead of other places (you can pay any random person you meet instantly with your phone, a…
> WeChat translate CN-EN is miles ahead of Google.
That's interesting!
At the same time, deepl.com is also miles ahead of Google, so I'm not all that impressed by Google Translate anymore. (Deepl itself is impressive is heck!)
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A simple question: are you a party member?
The implication of this question is pretty rude, but also, CCP membership isn't terribly meaningful. See, e.g. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/15/us/politics/china-travel-...
not a party member btw. Am Chinese. I will follow up here on any questions you(qbaqbaqba or anyone else) have though. and if you are interested here's my thought on the whole topic in one piece:
https://medium.com/@theseadroid/the-china-problem-ce0c1a0e57...
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The healthcare thing doesn't jive with what I've heard from my native Chinese friends; I've heard if you have the right connections (and by association, wealth) you can get exactly what you need, but without that you can't get anything.
I can’t speak to healthcare generally but one of my college roommates was from China and she just could not wrap her head around the politicization of birth control in the US. I remember her asking us if Americans thought it was dangerous or addictive because she couldn’t understand why it was so controversial that the affordable care act required birth control to be covered.
A sibling comment has already mentioned the one-child issue, but I wanted to say... Chinese culture is so deeply different from American culture about all sorts of things about reproduction and fertility.
Chinese people's attitudes toward the one-child policy and also sex-selective abortion are complicated and varied, but they don't seem very similar to Americans' attitudes at all!
In the U.S. it's common for people's religions to completely formally proscribe some forms of birth control and/or abortion. This has led to a big political debate about what the scope of their legal rights to avoid subsidizing these things for other people should be. It's not surprising that that debate should exist, but also not surprising that it would be uncommon in China where (1) the most practiced religions largely don't have these teachings and (2) people don't have a common expectation that the state will give their religious practices and beliefs a considerable amount of deference.