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Show HN: Primo – all-in-one IDE, CMS, component library, static site generator

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Re: Show HN: Primo – all-in-one IDE, CMS, component library, static site generator

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Post by mmmateo »

dathinab wrote: post #149
mmmateo wrote: post #2

Hi HN. primo is an IDECMSCLSSG (short for IDE, CMS, Component Library, Static Site Generator) I’ve been working on for a few months. The idea came from wanting to host a Notion page at a domain name and not being able to. Once I made the initial version - a basic text editor - the rest of the features just came naturally (except for the SSG, which came from not wanting to deal with hosting). I’d written off freelance…

Looks rally nice. Easy enough for non tech people to change small thinks (like text). But lets you get "down to business" for all the more complex changes. I mean it's 2020 toady even kids learn how to code and most companies hire some tech savy people anyway to do the general work in setting up a CMS even if they use one which "should" not need it.

Exactly. One of the ideas with this is that someone with “just” HTML/CSS/JS could make/sell a usable, CMS backed site without having to jump through all the hoops the modern web demands of them, while at the same time not being limited by the rigidity all the page builders seem to have.

Re: Show HN: Primo – all-in-one IDE, CMS, component library, static site generator

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Post by kaishiro »

emmanueloga_ wrote: post #172

The problem with website builders is that they do not suit anyone, except maybe when you need quick, "good enough", perhaps one-off web site. * Professional developers don't want to spend their days on a online GUI like this as opposed to the comfort of a repository and trusty code editor and tools. * End users, even with a great WYSIWYG UI, may still not be able to make knowledgeable design decisions. Also, even wit…

Curious if you've used Contentful (http://contentful.com) or Dato (https://www.datocms.com) yet - and if you have, what your biggest issues were with them.

We've used Contentful extensively basically since it's inception, and have toyed around with Dato enough to know what the offering is. We have our own list of missing pieces for both but am always curious about other's experiences.

Re: Show HN: Primo – all-in-one IDE, CMS, component library, static site generator

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Post by mmmateo »

emmanueloga_ wrote: post #172

The problem with website builders is that they do not suit anyone, except maybe when you need quick, "good enough", perhaps one-off web site. * Professional developers don't want to spend their days on a online GUI like this as opposed to the comfort of a repository and trusty code editor and tools. * End users, even with a great WYSIWYG UI, may still not be able to make knowledgeable design decisions. Also, even wit…

You hit the nail on the head when it comes to page builders. As far as I can tell, most of then try tackling the problem of expensive development by enabling nontechnical users to build sites in one of two ways: customize with a GUI (which is either comically limited or harder-than-code complex) or choose from an endless list of pre-built components/templates (which just turns one development hour into three research hours).

primo enables end users by enabling developers by offering immediate access to those same productive tools and making the code as accessible as possible.

As to your comment on single-source-multi-output, primo will be able to expose all the content on your site at an endpoint soon, stay tuned.

Re: Show HN: Primo – all-in-one IDE, CMS, component library, static site generator

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Post by mmmateo »

alexmingoia wrote: post #176
mmmateo wrote: post #88

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That’s the craziest thing to me. There’s no reason OSS has to be a thing. Here’s to hoping greed never kills it.

Being compensated for one’s efforts isn’t greed, and for-profit software can also be open-source. To each their own. It’s a cool project. I’ve spent a lot of time contributing to OSS, created popular OSS projects, and I felt pretty shitty when I realized other companies were using the software to make money and I hadn’t done anything to ensure I was compensated.

Not at all, I was more speaking to companies that lean heavily on OSS without giving back, which sounds like your experience. Would love to pick your brain sometime if you’re open to sharing any lessons you’ve learned along the way.

Re: Show HN: Primo – all-in-one IDE, CMS, component library, static site generator

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Post by mmmateo »

danbruder wrote: post #150

Bravo. This is very cool. Well done shipping it without getting bogged down in all the possible features and workflows that could be part of this sort of thing.

Thanks! Focusing on the core features was definitely the hardest part.

Re: Show HN: Primo – all-in-one IDE, CMS, component library, static site generator

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Post by mmmateo »

whytaka wrote: post #157
mmmateo wrote: post #118

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Thanks! Would love to hear any neat ideas you came across if you're up for it

Perhaps I didn't grasp at all the features you currently offer , (I'm also skeptical whether you'd want to broaden the feature set that it would become too complicated of a offering) but with what I had created, it was possible to have drafts with multiple versions, and I was preparing to make it possible to expose those multiple versions for AB testing as well.

Thanks for sharing. Makes me wonder if primo could use GitHub branches for the same application.

Re: Show HN: Primo – all-in-one IDE, CMS, component library, static site generator

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Post by sillycube »

joshspankit wrote: post #107
fizixer wrote: post #47

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I don't get it. There are dozens of amazing open source projects posted on HN every week, and on average, the ones out of these that are outstanding and could be turned into a business model are countless every month. So I don't understand what makes this project stand out so much that it's like leaving money on the table. (this is the first time I'm seeing a comment where the money is apparently on the table because…

Because lots of us see where this fits in the market. Businesses want to leave wordpress, and wix/squarespace are almost exclusively targeting non-technical users. This type of approach lets a technical person work with the marketing team so that the site can be both easy to update and optimized for business needs. You’re right that good software/service does not automatically mean profit, but you’re missing the unde…

I tried forestry and found the static site development very fragmented. There are:

1. git service providers 2. SSGs 3. CMSs 4. Static site hosting providers

If one is targeting end users who just want to write, it's quite hard to beat WordPress since the experience is completely streamlined.

Re: Show HN: Primo – all-in-one IDE, CMS, component library, static site generator

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Post by deltron3030 »

mmmateo wrote: post #167
blisseyGo wrote: post #159

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I am actually curious how they got that TLD. When I try it on namecheap, it says Unsupported TLD: https://www.namecheap.com/domains/registration/results/?doma...

iwantmyname.com sells them

.af doesn't show up in their list of whois privacy supported domains unfortunately.

Re: Show HN: Primo – all-in-one IDE, CMS, component library, static site generator

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Post by johnonolan »

ulisesrmzroche wrote: post #147
joshspankit wrote: post #107

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Because lots of us see where this fits in the market. Businesses want to leave wordpress, and wix/squarespace are almost exclusively targeting non-technical users. This type of approach lets a technical person work with the marketing team so that the site can be both easy to update and optimized for business needs. You’re right that good software/service does not automatically mean profit, but you’re missing the unde…

Who says businesses are trying to leave Wordpress? Anyone got any data backing the claim? I just don’t see it. Ghost already tried and gave up. There’s tons of Wordpress competitors out there. I could be wrong but where’s the data?

I'm curious, do you have any data backing your claim that Ghost 'tried and gave up'? Just wondering.
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