The Future of Online Identity Is Decentralized

Post by elric » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 5:47 AM UTC

narag wrote: post #95

motohagiography wrote: post #80

Have worked in the identity space for a long time. Authentication isn't a hard problem, but identity is. It will be decentralized because if it is not fragmented, it is literally just oppression. Trusting authentication is not trusting identity, and the origin of identity is the Ur-problem because it comes down to questions of recourse, collateral, risk, authority, and legitimacy - which are all political economy que…

It will be decentralized because if it is not fragmented, it is literally just oppression. I've never understood that way of viewing things. For me identity is a right. The government must provide me with the means to prove who I am and my associated data like birth certificates, academic titles, health (vaccination), real estate and indirectly verifying identity for private contracts that use my national id card num…

Post by mirimir » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 6:28 AM UTC

julianeon wrote: post #165

mirimir wrote: post #136

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Why not do both? As you say, using your real name builds your brand. However, you must then be very careful to avoid saying stuff that damages your brand. And as you basically say, you must therefore censor yourself online. So why not do other stuff using pseudonyms? That's exactly why I started using them. I'm retired now, so there's really nothing about my meatspace identity to protect. But when there was, having t…

I've given this a lot of thought (I also practice what I preach - I 95% post under my real name). I advise against that, because in my experience, when you have a real name and a pseudonym account, there's a strong temptation to post all your edgy, attention-grabbing content to the alt, and all the boring content to your real name account. Which is really bad for your main account, actually. Note that some of the mos…

Post by overdrivetg » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 7:22 AM UTC

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #162

Barrin92 wrote: post #104

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>All the use cases for digital identity are about enforcement and liability, and there are almost none that anyone would volunteer for. Everything from a LinkedIn or Facebook account to your personal artist homepage with your CV on it establishes identity. People obviously disclose identity voluntarily, because identity is the primary means by which strangers establish trust. If your identity is not transparent to me…

> If your identity is not transparent to me, I won't enter a relationship with you that requries me to know who you are, which in practice is almost every one. There are two things about this that don't require centralized identity. The first is that it's very commonly not true at all. If you want to sign up for an account for an online service (e.g. email, YouTube, gaming), they don't need the name on your driver's…

Post by Leace » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 8:56 AM UTC

leorio wrote: post #186

why isn't there an OAuth system that is purely GPG keys based. For example I could sign some custom message from the server using only my keys, without ever having to deal with emails. This way sign-up is as seamless as login. Is there anything like this I can use? Are websites not doing this because of spam and other issues?

Post by tatersolid » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 10:46 AM UTC

cirno wrote: post #85

I feel like a domain is a nice way to link identities, with a small nominal fee being a nice deterrant to botting. Not the most user-friendly for those not tech savvy, but third-party services could help with setting up such sites. Make a page on your domain with rel=me links to your social media profiles, have the social media sites link back to your site with a verified symbol next to the link when it scans and val…