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Re: The FBI tracking your browsing history without a warrant might be the beginning

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> At least not under a libertarian model of governance. I see the source of our disagreement; I was trained in Locke social contract theory and am talking about the US government (given the context of the topic), which is not crafted on a Libertarian framework (the legislature and the executive arms of the government instantiate the idea of what is and is not lawful; whether they "create" the idea or merely implement…

>> I was trained in Locke social contract theory and am talking about the US government (given the context of the topic), which is not crafted on a Libertarian framework Actually it was in many ways, and Locke's was a supporter of Natural rights and is the basis for most libertarian philosophy Locke did not believe it was illegal to murder another man simply because the government decreed such an act to be illegal, L…

That may be. Perhaps I don't understand libertarianism enough to evaluate the claim. upon reflection, it wasn't Locke I was thinking of anyway, but Hobbes; "Where there is no common power, there is no law; where no law, no injustice. Force and fraud are in war the two cardinal virtues. Justice and injustice are none of the faculties neither of the body nor mind."

Can you give an example of US government enforcing law not instantiated by the government? I'm having a hard time comprehending what you meant by "Government is simply the body for which we have ordained the authority to punish you for unlawful actions, it is not the body for which we have ordained to create the idea of what is and is not unlawful." Government processes create the laws under which a person may be found in need of punishment.

Re: The FBI tracking your browsing history without a warrant might be the beginning

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It's clear that the government(s) haven't had people's interest for quite a while now. It's nice for us to vote and protest but we need to take things into our own hands as those forms have yielded little results. We need to build things and use software that are privacy first. Such as: DuckDuckGo Firefox Signal (actually secure messaging unlike whatsApp) Linux OS TOR Librem 5, is a great open sourced secure phone ex…

Many upvotes on this, please. Political and moral aspects aside - the sooner we can start reasonably and effectively counteracting this stuff (if only on an individual basis, to start) - the better. BTW the sister comment to this one also seems helpful: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23259653

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