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Would a VPN basically make even a warrant useless in obtaining browsing data from your ISP?
No, it just puts your VPN provider in the position your ISP was in assuming they both keep similar records.
Just a reminder that if you're upset about this, politics is an active process. I'm going to look up my senator's votes right now and send them an email if they were one of the nay votes.
What has changed is how either civilians or the military could withdraw their consent which gives a government legitimacy. Society thought it would be a good idea to log our thoughts and lives on computers and the internet,now rulers can monitor the ruled and adopt before they can organize any effort to withdraw their consent.
Suddenly all the weapons,money and elections are futile against rulers that monitor and manipulate thoughts and social relationships.
You can imagine why they feel like americans must be spied on. Their ability to maintain rule depends on it. Not all citizens are created equals in their minds. Deep divisions and addiction to power.
Begining of the end, or end of the begining?
Once again the lack of media coverage on this is appalling. Rand Paul has introduced an amendment that goes up for vote tomorrow that would disallow this surveillance on American citizens, which of course is not expected to pass. McConnell is drafting language to prevent this from being used on “federal election candidates” which of course is expected to pass.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do they have to be viable candidates? I don't mind being in a permanent state of casual campaigning
>An individual running for a seat in the House or Senate or for the office of U.S. President becomes a candidate when he or she raises or spends more than $5,000 in contributions or expenditures. One generally needs a certain number of petition signatures to appear on a ballot, but apparently not needed just to legally be a candidate. https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/registeri...
Once again the lack of media coverage on this is appalling. Rand Paul has introduced an amendment that goes up for vote tomorrow that would disallow this surveillance on American citizens, which of course is not expected to pass. McConnell is drafting language to prevent this from being used on “federal election candidates” which of course is expected to pass.
I don't get the hostility towards requiring a warrant to spy on election candidates. Even if the goal is similar protections for everybody, it's obvious that measures designed to prevent parties from abusing the surveillance apparatus for political ends is a good thing. It's difficult to imagine a better tool for ensuring one side gets muck raked harder than the other.
If you're tasked with the public welfare you should get greater scrutiny, not be granted special privileges from it.
It's the classic case of those writing the law carving out an exception for themselves.
Someone's borrowing history at a public library has strong federal protections. Shouldn't someone's browsing history get the same treatment?
As a Bernie supporter, I'm disappointed by his lack of a YES vote. We at least deserve a statement. I'm going to suggest a potential explanation, but I'm still disappointed by the lack of vote and/or statement. Based on how Patty Murray (D) has said she would have voted YES but wasn't able to get to DC in time, it's clear it was never going to pass to begin with. This happens often – someone like Mitch McConnell migh…
>nobody blames the 37 Republicans who actually killed it I think we _do_ blame the 37 Republicans, it's just that that's not a particularly new emotion to feel at this point. It's no secret that the GOP pulls this stuff (as, like you noted, with Collins). Currently, though, Bernie (and Murray, who at least commented) have the image of not being present for what, even if only optically, feels like an incredibly import…
As noted up thread, the GOP would've just moved the goalposts by turning one of their swing votes if there was any danger of him putting a vote in for this. But he was batting .000 on the month going into today, so it was an easy bet.
1: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/bernard_sanders/400...