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France offers each cyclist €50 for bike repairs once lockdown ends

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Re: France offers each cyclist €50 for bike repairs once lockdown ends

#181

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One thing confused me about this. In major American cities bike theft is incredibly common, to the point that the police won't help at all. I've had bikes repeatedly stolen out of locked garages at home! I'd never buy a bike that was worth any reasonable amount of money, my commute pre-covid was a good candidate for an electric bike, but no way would I spend more than a 2 or 3 hundred dollars on something that will g…

I've been commuting by bike my whole adult life and I get a bike stolen once every 3 years on average. I typically spend around $1000 on my bikes, and the cost is still dick-all compared to transit or driving.

Bummer. I've been bike commuting my entire life and never had anything stolen, depends on where you live.

Re: France offers each cyclist €50 for bike repairs once lockdown ends

#182

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What I've learned while I lived in Amsterdam is that you want to invest ~30% of the value of your bike to purchase a bike lock. Basically make it not worth the effort to break the lock. Also second-hand and rusty ones are better than new ones. Some Dutch cities have a free-of-charge engraving mechanism where you basically engrave a serial number on a bike to make it easier to track down stolen bikes, as well as to kn…

> What I've learned while I lived in Amsterdam is that you want to invest ~30% of the value of your bike to purchase a bike lock. That advice predates the battery-powered angle grinder, which many bike thieves in Western Europe now use. Even the toughest, most expensive U-lock can be broken in about a minute with an angle grinder.

How much sound does it make though?

Re: France offers each cyclist €50 for bike repairs once lockdown ends

#183

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What I've learned while I lived in Amsterdam is that you want to invest ~30% of the value of your bike to purchase a bike lock. Basically make it not worth the effort to break the lock. Also second-hand and rusty ones are better than new ones. Some Dutch cities have a free-of-charge engraving mechanism where you basically engrave a serial number on a bike to make it easier to track down stolen bikes, as well as to kn…

> What I've learned while I lived in Amsterdam is that you want to invest ~30% of the value of your bike to purchase a bike lock. That advice predates the battery-powered angle grinder, which many bike thieves in Western Europe now use. Even the toughest, most expensive U-lock can be broken in about a minute with an angle grinder.

I saw a guy outside a grocery store taking one of those to a U-lock. He said it was his own bike. Wasn’t sure what to do after that.

Re: France offers each cyclist €50 for bike repairs once lockdown ends

#184

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One thing confused me about this. In major American cities bike theft is incredibly common, to the point that the police won't help at all. I've had bikes repeatedly stolen out of locked garages at home! I'd never buy a bike that was worth any reasonable amount of money, my commute pre-covid was a good candidate for an electric bike, but no way would I spend more than a 2 or 3 hundred dollars on something that will g…

What I've learned while I lived in Amsterdam is that you want to invest ~30% of the value of your bike to purchase a bike lock. Basically make it not worth the effort to break the lock. Also second-hand and rusty ones are better than new ones. Some Dutch cities have a free-of-charge engraving mechanism where you basically engrave a serial number on a bike to make it easier to track down stolen bikes, as well as to kn…

> you want to invest ~30% of the value of your bike to purchase a bike lock.

Or get two different ones. Bike thieves specialize on one or two specific locks and prefer easy targets.

Re: France offers each cyclist €50 for bike repairs once lockdown ends

#185

Instead of €50. The government could make €70 tax relief. Then there would be no need to transfer (€50 x millions of bike owners) through the government's hands and to waste peoples effort on serving the whole operation. The only reason why it is not like that is because politicians like to have our money which gives them power and makes the state bigger and bigger.

The administration would be more or less the same either way. The transfer of the money is a very small part of it.

Re: France offers each cyclist €50 for bike repairs once lockdown ends

#186

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What I've learned while I lived in Amsterdam is that you want to invest ~30% of the value of your bike to purchase a bike lock. Basically make it not worth the effort to break the lock. Also second-hand and rusty ones are better than new ones. Some Dutch cities have a free-of-charge engraving mechanism where you basically engrave a serial number on a bike to make it easier to track down stolen bikes, as well as to kn…

> What I've learned while I lived in Amsterdam is that you want to invest ~30% of the value of your bike to purchase a bike lock. That advice predates the battery-powered angle grinder, which many bike thieves in Western Europe now use. Even the toughest, most expensive U-lock can be broken in about a minute with an angle grinder.

Having two locks can also be a good tactic, especially two locks in a different style e.g. a d-lock and a cable lock. The theory being that a thief would need to have two tools to steal your bike which means it's likely more hassle than other bikes that'll only have been secured with a single lock.

Re: France offers each cyclist €50 for bike repairs once lockdown ends

#187

It's a nice gesture but hardly solves a problem. If the payment is for a mechanic to perform some "service" on your bicycle to make it roadworthy again, and from it you gain neither the tools nor the knowledge to perform two simple, necessary tasks for a cyclist; replace a tyre/inner tube, or replace a chain; what's the long term benefit? How about put 50 euros per cyclist into a tool kit, a dozen inner tubes and som…

> to perform two simple, necessary tasks for a cyclist; replace a tyre/inner tube, or replace a chain Never had to do either of those things, driving a bike almost daily throughout the city to school, hobbies, friends,... The few times my tire went flat, a short visit to a mechanic cost alsmost nothing

Sure, but this funding would presumably cover you for one visit. Is that enough to convince you to start cycling if you don't already?

If they want to convince people to ride, it makes sense to provide them the tools to sustain themselves.

Teach a man to fish... And all that.

Re: France offers each cyclist €50 for bike repairs once lockdown ends

#188
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A lot of people would just get a new bike before repairing.

Where do you live that's so rich that people get new bikes instead of repairing the ones they have???

I live where if someone spends 1000 on a bike this year. They will repeat next year. Same as cell phones. New iphone prime 5k extra hd space. I'm in.

Re: France offers each cyclist €50 for bike repairs once lockdown ends

#189

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> What I've learned while I lived in Amsterdam is that you want to invest ~30% of the value of your bike to purchase a bike lock. That advice predates the battery-powered angle grinder, which many bike thieves in Western Europe now use. Even the toughest, most expensive U-lock can be broken in about a minute with an angle grinder.

I saw a guy outside a grocery store taking one of those to a U-lock. He said it was his own bike. Wasn’t sure what to do after that.

Take a really good picture including his face. Send picture to the local police department in case someone reports that bike stolen.

Presumably if it's actually his bike, he'll be thankful.

Re: France offers each cyclist €50 for bike repairs once lockdown ends

#190

Instead of €50. The government could make €70 tax relief. Then there would be no need to transfer (€50 x millions of bike owners) through the government's hands and to waste peoples effort on serving the whole operation. The only reason why it is not like that is because politicians like to have our money which gives them power and makes the state bigger and bigger.

The US used to have a small tax relief for bike commuters. I agree there'd be less overhead, but the proposed system will get people to fix their bikes and ride them.

Tiny tax rebates just get lost in the wash and result in an over-complicated tax filing process. The govt isn't trying to make cyclists relatively a bit richer, it's trying to reduce air pollution.

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