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Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by 333c »

tartrate wrote: post #162

"Best Single-Camera System in an iPhone" Is there another iPhone with a single-camera system? Otherwise it just sounds like they had 0 other good things to say about it. Soon we're down to "the newest iPhone ever released so far".

There are certainly all the previous iPhones that had just one (back-facing) camera. I suppose they're saying that it's better than all of those. Every year they say that the new phone is the "best iPhone ever," which I suppose is true but isn't a very strong statement.

Edit: Actually, the iPhone XR has just one camera: https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-iphone/iphone-xr

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by radicaldreamer »

wnissen wrote: post #138
ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

You have to add $75 a year to the operating cost of these phones, for AirPods, which appear to have a design life of about 18 months, max. I am very frustrated as the SE is really getting to end of life. I have bought 3 of them in the past month from various eBay sellers with good feedback. One fake, one had a badly degraded battery, and the other went into a reset loop after a couple weeks. There's not much out ther…

There’s a $9 lightning to headphone adaptor and a lightning headset are included in the box.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by Nursie »

coldpie wrote: post #161

Yes. I'm an Android user who is absolutely sick of phablets. I have a Pixel 3A (5.6") and it is way, way too big. I've been quite excited about this iPhone SE announcement. However, the lack of a headphone jack is a huge negative, and 4.7" is the absolute largest I think is reasonable. A little smaller would've been ideal. I'm undecided on whether to switch to the SE, but I genuinely hope it sells like crazy. Then ma…

There have usually been smaller androids available. But people didn't buy them in enough numbers to make them a thriving sector AFAICT. Samsung used to do the Galaxy Mini line, Sony always had smaller xperia's... But most folks seem to want a bigger, shinier screen.

That's not to say you're wrong in your desires, it's just they might not be widely shared.

I also hope this does well. It's a nice looking unit.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by avnfish »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #43

This is not a small phone. It's almost the same size as the Google Pixel 4 which has a 5.7" display. SE: 5.45" x 2.65" Pixel: 5.79" x 2.71"

It's not too bad. I'm a huge proponent of the one-handed phone after using a Nexus 5 for 6.5 years. I think there are two main contributors to one-handed usability: (1) volume of the chasis, with a particular focus on width and (2) screen size, with a particular focus on screen height.

In terms of (1), the SE is in line with the Nexus 5 (and actually less wide), whilst the Pixel 4 is slightly bigger in all dimensions:

  N5: 137.9 x 69.2 x 8.6 mm (5.43 x 2.72 x 0.34 in)
  SE: 138.4 x 67.3 x 7.3 mm (5.45 x 2.65 x 0.29 in)
In terms of (2), a 4.7" screen with a 16:9 ratio is far easier to reach the top corners of than on a 5.7" that's 19:9. Yes, there is a bit less bezel on the Pixel 4 but it'll still be very difficult to reach the top one-handed with the taller screen.

Specs source:

[N5] https://www.gsmarena.com/lg_nexus_5-5705.php

[SE] https://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_se_(2020)-10170.php

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by DangerousPie »

ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

FWIW I thought I would miss TouchID for a long time until I finally bought a new iPhone and realised that FaceID actually worked much better than I expected.

Yes there are some occasions where it doesn't work well (when you're trying to unlock the phone without looking at it properly) but there are also many occasions where it works much better. Most of the time my phone now unlocks so smoothly that I don't even realise it was locked. So on balance I think FaceID would actually be a plus.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by cletus »

So at my previous employer I kept separate work and personal phones. At my current employer I decided I wasn't going to do that. Who wants to carry two phones? Or pay for a personal service you barely use?

I'm fortunate enough that my work phone is (now) an iPhone 11 Pro. I routinely go to Australia for extended periods and need a phone there. For years (>5) I used the last personal phone I bought myself, the iPhone 6S, which was still doing quite well since ~2 years ago it had a free battery replacement.

But I finally decided to upgrade this. I like the 11 Pro (particularly the cameras) but I find the narrower screen a little annoying (compared to the previous work phone, the iPhone 7 Plus).

But damn phones are expensive now. I couldn't justify the almost $2000 for an iPhone 11 Pro Max and decided to spend "only" half that on an iPhone 11 instead. It lacks one of the cameras but it has a bigger screen than the 11. I really see no reason to spend the huge extra on the 11 Pro or Pro Max.

But by God do I hate Face ID (even more so on my iPad). It's horrible. Apple says the false positive rate on Touch ID was too high. I say the false negative rate on Face ID is too high and this is incredibly frustrating. Worse, Apple tries to make it more secure by forcing policies on you like 5 failed attempts means it asks for a passcode. Failed attempts include passive fails where you just haven't positioned the phone right.

I think Apple just got rid of Touch ID to have more screen area, honestly. That's not such a bad thing but what I'd give for an iPhone that had a fingerprint sensor on the back (like the Samsung Galaxy S9 did, which I also briefly used).

So the presence of Touch ID makes me almost want to buy one of these but I can't go back screen size wise. As an aside, I am tempted to get rid of my iPad Pro and replace it with the newer (non-Pro) iPad because those still do have Touch ID.

This really is an updated iPhone 8 with a modern CPU. It seems like a pretty good deal to me.

But please, Apple, give me a Touch ID option.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by asaddhamani »

WoahNoun wrote: post #174
sn_master wrote: post #112

I use Pixel 4, and I absolutely hate not having a fingerprint sensor. Cons: * At night it doesn't work, because I am laying on the bed and half my face is covered. * It doesn't work when I am not wearing my glasses. Annoying when I have just woken up or going to bed and want to check a quick notification. * Sometimes it unlocks by itself even if I don't want it to. For the headphone jack, I got a cheap USB-C ones and…

My current biggest problem with FaceID is that it doesn't work when I'm wearing a mask. Which is pretty much anytime I'm outside right now. Never had an issue with glasses though.

Tell me about it. I hope Apple can address this, it's so frustrating to type in the password every single time, and some apps just refuse to work without biometric authentication (payments apps)

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by therealdrag0 »

buzzy_hacker wrote: post #93

Devastated they increased the size, but saw it coming. It’s the same as an iPhone 8, which is too big.

I loved the SE, but now am on an 8 after it broke. TBH I adjusted pretty quickly. It is a bit unstable to hold at times, but I rarely notice it. And just as often I wish I had more screen real-estate such as to fit a PDF on screen. :shrug: trade-offs.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by wiredfool »

cbovis wrote: post #122
wiredfool wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vat is applied in the price in the UK, and sales tax is at checkout in the US.

Interesting, I'd find that super annoying as a consumer that's used to seeing the full price (ex. delivery) upfront. Is this standard practice for online US stores?

There’s probably more than 10k potential sales tax rates in the US, so you get used to it.
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