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You're a Slave to Money, Then You Die

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Re: You're a Slave to Money, Then You Die

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Post by [deleted] »

bathtub365 wrote: post #164
threatofrain wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If a democracy wants authoritarianism Nationalist Party then there is no magic mechanism to stop this, and it might be presumptive to even assume that democracy is most morally harmonious and effective configuration of society. I believe China is seriously contending this assumption, as it races ahead of its Asian and European neighbors with respect to economic optimism. Also, political parties appear part and parcel…

And I would say it also races far ahead of its neighbours on the number of atrocities it commits against its own citizenry.

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Re: You're a Slave to Money, Then You Die

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Post by lcall »

Ghjklov wrote: post #179
lcall wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With any downvotes, I would appreciate a courteous, thoughtful comment. I have not understood the possible harm in what I said, only likely disagreement. Disagreement is OK, but it seems that it could be better to write clearly rather than just quietly hide.

Isn't it obvious that dark retreats as light approaches? :) That's why you are downvoted, despite not writing anything even remotely offensive or wrong.

Thanks much for the kind words.

(fwiw to anyone: I wrote about how I know what I said. Link is in my profile.)

Re: You're a Slave to Money, Then You Die

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Post by [deleted] »

ghastmaster wrote: post #82

The term Neoliberalism attributed to post 1980 political figures is appropriate in that they tout themselves as classical liberal(hayek,mises,etc.) ideals proponents, but in reality they do not apply or conform to classical liberal ideals. The author does not understand that classical liberal interpretations of economics is an explanation of markets underlying principles. Reading mises, hayek, etc. Is akin to reading…

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Re: You're a Slave to Money, Then You Die

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Post by cbHXBY1D »

scroot wrote: post #53
say_it_as_it_is wrote: post #48

Take note of the source of this article. Religion always shows up during dark days and creeps its tentacles around the vulnerable. For many, you're a slave to religion and then you die. People have used religion to control society way before capitalism became popular. To this day, it continues to control thoughts and behaviors of billions of people. Those who have acquired power in religious institutions abuse their…

Check out the book the author of this piece has written, "The Enchantments of Mammon." His very point is that neoliberal thinking has replaced religion in a vital sense

I'm about half way through the book and have enjoyed it. IMO it's an instant classic.

Re: You're a Slave to Money, Then You Die

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Post by phaemon »

ThomPete wrote: post #70
phaemon wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would make sense if everything was produced entirely by machines, but it doesn't make any sense in the current real world.

Neither does it make sense to call people who work for you to provide for their families slaves.

Then perhaps you should have made that comment rather than a nonsensical one about machines?

Re: You're a Slave to Money, Then You Die

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Post by asdff »

softwaredoug wrote: post #120
josefresco wrote: post #22

"Before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment, chop wood, carry water."

Before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water, get smallpox, let doctor do bloodletting, watch everyone around you die After enlightenment, chop wood, carry water, get smallpox vaccine, live to play with your kids and watch them grow up...

Only if you are born into a country or find yourself with an occupation that grants you access to the smallpox vaccine for little cost.

Re: You're a Slave to Money, Then You Die

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Post by raverbashing »

scroot wrote: post #31
raverbashing wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. We might as well say, you're a slave to oxygen and water, then you die.

By saying this, you are confirming the author's argument about how (recent) cultures interpret the role of markets in all of life

Would you prefer to hunter-gather?

Re: You're a Slave to Money, Then You Die

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Post by justnotworthit »

hudibras wrote: post #66
peignoir wrote: post #6

It’s ad reductio it’s like saying soccer is pushing a ball. You could also say life is waking up eating sleeping and then death. It’s true but it’s definitely an emotional argument. I preferred the lectures on free will by Conway, it does not answer anything but it allows for a nice réflexion

In every HN comment section, there's always, 100% of the time, at least one person who only reads the title of the piece (in this case, a song lyric from The Verve) and still has the nerve to post a comment.

There must be a dozen or two "100% of the time" comments. Collect them all and make a mock/parody HN thread.

Re: You're a Slave to Money, Then You Die

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Post by blast »

peterlk wrote: post #13

If you have not read _The hard thing about hard things_, you should. One of my favorites is this exchange when the company hits hard times: Bill Campbell: "It's not about the money." Ben Horowitz: "What's it about, Bill?" Bill: "It's about the FUCKING money.

I have not read the book and am missing the point. Can I get a literal explanation?
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