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A man owns the most advanced private air force after buying 46 F/A-18s

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Re: A man owns the most advanced private air force after buying 46 F/A-18s

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it's probably not possible for armed citizens to actually overthrow the US government without support from the conventional armed forces. but it's not necessary to completely overthrow a government to extract concessions. a credible threat of widespread chaos and violence might tip the scales against a very unpopular policy.

> it's not necessary to completely overthrow a government to extract concessions. a credible threat of widespread chaos and violence might tip the scales against a very unpopular policy. And how often does that actually succeed? The American Civil War caused the South to lose out on slavery, at great cost to its economy; while The Troubles didn't induce the UK to give any concessions it wasn't already willing to give…

while The Troubles didn't induce the UK to give any concessions it wasn't already willing to give beforehand.

Quite the contrary. The Troubles in Northern Ireland were not a unilateral insurrection, but an emergent response to aggressive incumbent paramilitarism when confronted with demands for greater civil rights for the minority population. Military strategists favored withdrawal of the occupying forces; political hardline thinking won out, but was unable to win a conflict of attrition and eventually settled for power-sharing and de-escalation. At the present Northern Ireland is as likely to see reunification with the rest of the island as continued membership of the UK.

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Most likely a big percentage of these contract pilots are retired ex-military. Enjoying decent military healthcare benefits retirees get while raking in contractor pay.

good for them!

No complaints here, my dad double dipped for years.

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I won't say that they offer perfect security, but these are military contractors, not part-timers from a temp agency. They are mostly ex-military (you can't get trained Hornet drivers anywhere else except for a few civilian test pilots), still have to maintain their security clearances, and are subject to security audits. They probably have vulnerabilities but I don't think a training contractor is as juicy of a targ…

>still have to maintain their security clearances >They probably have vulnerabilities but I don't think a training contractor is as juicy of a target as you might think ... It not useless information, but it mostly doesn't make sense for Russia/China to spend their effort finding out what the US thinks Russia/China is capable of. They already have a pretty good idea. This is contradictory. Classified information is,…

From what I've read I'm pretty sure not everyone who has to maintain a clearance deals with actually sensitive information.

Re: A man owns the most advanced private air force after buying 46 F/A-18s

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This fleet, if armed, would stand a chance against my country's air force.

are you a fellow Canadian?

Nope, Poland.

We have some MiG-29s which were essentially gifted by none other than the German Luftwaffe and a few F-16s bought in the mid 00's.

Overall not bad, but this one guy has more than half the number of our aircraft.

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> "Aggressor squadrons" train very differently, to mimic potential adversaries combat doctrine. Yeah, but doesn't the US have those too, at Top Gun and Red Flag? I'd think that Top Gun would have aggressor squadron pilots qualified to fly F-18s.

It sounds like it's just a way for the Navy to blow taxpayer money. Look at how our government managed a virus. Now imagine WW3.

The story is that tax payers gave his company money to buy our F18s from us so that he can accumulate a force of enemy aircraft. His company will also train pilots specifically as the enemy would.

And while he will do this at a considerable profit, it will theoretically be better executed per dollar that the military doing it in a separate division. Another post claims he will generate sorties more than twice as efficiently.

So the above is either true or false.

If it is false and the contract costs taxpayers more than the military would then, as you suspect, it is entirely a pork-barrel waste of money. The fact that other nations with highly regraded military don't do this theoretical efficiency boost strongly supports this.

If it is true and the contractor is somehow more efficient, then that is even more worrisome. Scarier still is that it is taken as an inevitable state of affairs and no one seems concerned about it. That US destroyers have a catastrophically bad helm UI supports this, even though that would be conspicuous pork-barrel in it's own right.

Same with the fact the sale was F18s. Either the enemy has them or not. In one case it's pork-barrel, in the other case the US has somehow sold fighters to an enemy.

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> "Aggressor squadrons" train very differently, to mimic potential adversaries combat doctrine. Yeah, but doesn't the US have those too, at Top Gun and Red Flag? I'd think that Top Gun would have aggressor squadron pilots qualified to fly F-18s.

TOPGUN is pretty much gone now.

By that you mean it's merged into NSAWC? Because there's still a TOPGUN course.

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I wonder if this guy is able to get insurance on the planes. I'd imagine that if a single plane was destroyed he'd be out millions of dollars.

You typically can't get insurance on race cars either, but that doesn't seem to stop anyone.

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Yeah, but I can even use a yat. Not many people can use an FA18... the accessibility of anysort of utility drops pretty fast when it is "can fly an f-18"

Most people can't pilot a super yacht either; they hire a full crew. The FA18 can seat two. Also, anyone who has the money to buy and operate one of these vehicles has more than enough money to get someone to teach them how to fly it. But yes, this is not an hobby for the masses.

Yeah but the joy of a yacht probably has less to do with piloting it than the joy of piloting an F18.

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Most people can't pilot a super yacht either; they hire a full crew. The FA18 can seat two. Also, anyone who has the money to buy and operate one of these vehicles has more than enough money to get someone to teach them how to fly it. But yes, this is not an hobby for the masses.

Yeah but the joy of a yacht probably has less to do with piloting it than the joy of piloting an F18.

If you gave me the option to ride on a yacht or ride in an F18, I would 1000% choose the latter.

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It might also be beneficial to have a training combatant, who is not in the same chain of command as the trainees. Gives external perspective, and reduces the chance of collusion to show "good results" if done right.

That's what I was thinking initially. However, wouldn't the same pressures that apply to someone in a chain of command, also not apply to a contractor? So, for example, if someone tasked with testing the current military strategy comes up with a wargame tactic that would embarrass the military (i.e. their bosses) they may not want to do that because embarrassing their bosses is probably not good for them. However, in…

As a field grade officer having just recently finished an NTC rotation, the OPFOR has zero qualms about embarrassing BLUFOR.
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