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Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers

#181

God please don't make me use a non-zoom video conferencing tool! I have used about a dozen over the years in my role as a consultant, and Zoom has been by far the most reliable. I’m hopeful lots of good can come from the scrutiny, but please Zoom get your act together so I don’t have to use some other buggy thing that doesn’t actually work.

Would you rather have to log into your ban acct 3 times before it actually lets you in or get in everytime but other people can also get in

Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers

#183

God please don't make me use a non-zoom video conferencing tool! I have used about a dozen over the years in my role as a consultant, and Zoom has been by far the most reliable. I’m hopeful lots of good can come from the scrutiny, but please Zoom get your act together so I don’t have to use some other buggy thing that doesn’t actually work.

I knew I would get downvoted. But folks seriously don’t remember the pain before Zoom. And the current pain anytime we have to use a GoToMeeting, Google Meet, Webex or other tool that barely functions. Human interaction that actually works right now is so important. And I simply have a hard time trusting another product to actually do the call reliably

I have to agree. I deal with vendors a lot, so I've used a bunch of different ones: GoToMeeting, BlueJeans, WebEx, Skype. And the experience of using those ones is painful. Zoom is a joy to use. Its not perfect, and I have my complaints (when I'm sharing a screen why can't I make the gallery view large so I can see everybody on a second screen??) but it has been rock solid.

Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers

#184

Zoom has a not very well published chrome app (intended for chromebook users). You can install it in normal chrome and it gives you a much better experience than the web version without all the issues of the desktop app. I trust zoom a lot more when it is running inside a chrome sandbox than as a native app.

I use this because I have a pixelbook and it works pretty well except for two issues: (1) minor issue that you have to click the "leave meeting" button, you can't just close the window or else it strangely relaunches and (2) major issue is that you can't change your video background which is a killer feature IMO.

I haven't been able to find a way to change my video background on the Linux client either. The image recognition software must be difficult to reliably implement for their lower-value platforms (as in, it would cost them too much to get it working well relative to the number of users).

Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers

#185

God please don't make me use a non-zoom video conferencing tool! I have used about a dozen over the years in my role as a consultant, and Zoom has been by far the most reliable. I’m hopeful lots of good can come from the scrutiny, but please Zoom get your act together so I don’t have to use some other buggy thing that doesn’t actually work.

Uber conference works just as well in my experience. Same league as Zoom. I'm honestly not sure why it isn't getting any press.

Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers

#186
I put together instructions for creating an install-free dock icon for Zoom. Nothing ground breaking here, I just combined several sets of instructions I found useful.

https://blog.joeldare.com/creating-an-install-free-dock-icon...

Zoom stopped the browser login from working for a few days, but it seems to be back working now.

Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers

#187

I interviewed at Google a while back for an SRE position working with the Hangouts team. My first interview was in another office and the audio in Hangouts session would not start. We ending up having to move on to the next interview. I'm not surprised even Google employees don't use it.

Hangouts Meet actually works very well overall. I work at Google and almost never have problems with it. Hangouts Chat, on the other hand...well okay, it seems reliable enough, doesn't have that problem that old Hangouts did. Comparing the UX to Discord just makes me sad though.

This has been my experience as well (with some relatively large Hangouts Meet meetings in a big G Suite org). Compared with old-fashioned Hangouts, Meet is pretty reliable.

Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers

#188

God please don't make me use a non-zoom video conferencing tool! I have used about a dozen over the years in my role as a consultant, and Zoom has been by far the most reliable. I’m hopeful lots of good can come from the scrutiny, but please Zoom get your act together so I don’t have to use some other buggy thing that doesn’t actually work.

> God please don't make me use a non-zoom video conferencing tool! I have honestly lost track of the amount of software I've seen in the past 20 years, that people insist they absolutely must continue to use despite its well documented gaping security flaws. Because it has a better UI or makes their life very slightly more convenient in some way. Versions of Microsoft Office from the early 2000s where an entire opera…

their popularity was the reason why there were so many exploits

Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers

#190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> because then you're forced to dial in, which just puts you at a disadvantage when everyone can see everyone's face except yours. Can't they just participate in a call from the browser? I thought Google only banned the application/app, not usage of the service altogether.

Personally, I feel much advantaged when no one can see my face. And in truth, I usually don't want to see anyone else's face either. Aren't there companies that forbid looking at someone for more than five seconds? Well guess what, on a video call, they're staring at you for minutes on end.

> Aren't there companies that forbid looking at someone for more than five seconds?

Wait what? Could someone explain to me the reasoning behind a policy like this?

Edit: it appears to be a sexual harassment policy, and apparently Netflix has tried it [0]

[0] https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/06/netflix-five-second-s...

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