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Why do you think nationalism is bad?
It doesn't have a good track record. Nationalism in all its forms is abhorrent.
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Suppressing secession is tyranny. India should know a thing or two about that.
No one suppressed secession. There have been secession movements not just in Kashmir but in North East too. That doesn't give anyone the authority to conduct terror attacks on fellow citizens. When things go beyond a point of no return then force is needed. Since the day India Abrogated Article 370 there hasn't been one major terror attack in Kashmir. That is good enough for the rest of India that was sick and tired…
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Is this the plan? Are the Pandits when they return going to be the only ones allowed unrestricted internet facility?
I don't see where the comment you replied to suggested this.
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#185When I left Kashmir a few months ago, my phone and all its contents were checked by Indian police at the airport. They asked me to unlock and checked photos, WhatsApp texts, etc. Random arrests and extra-judicial killings of Kashmiris by the Indian state is a quite regular occurrence. A laughable narrative around how they were "Pakistan sponsored terrorists" is usually spun by the media/police nexus.
Classic internet comment conflating 2 different issues into one to make an abhorrent point. India is over reaching in Kashmir without question. But to imply that there aren't terrorist actors from Pakistan in the region is completely false. It has been borne out time and again that even if they don't physically cross the border, they train and indoctrinate the youth in the region somehow. This is the problem with eve…
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#186Quick summary of the situation in India - In 2014, Narendra Modi was elected Prime Minister on a plank of "development for all". Since the BJP's pedigree was one of Hindu nationalism (aka Hindutva), this was a change welcomed by many. He had a good track record of development as Chief Minister (equivalent of Governor in America). - After a couple of major missteps (invalidating all high value currency notes, tax chan…
> building a temple over a destroyed mosque Wasn't this a Supreme Court order both parties accepted? The BJP isn't forcing this, although this has been their goal for decades and they will certainly claim credit for it.
You're right about the BJP claiming credit for it. We're going to hear about nothing else for the next four years, especially during state election periods.
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https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/an-important-distinction Patriotism is love for one’s country. Nationalism is the belief that one’s country (and often ethnic subset) is supreme (and more deserving of prosperity), speaking generally.
Would the formation of Israel be an expression of nationalism? Can it in that light be seen as the belief that one's country or ethnic group is just as deserving as others'? Or to take a more recent example of Kurdish nationalism.
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#188As a young tech person in India, this stuff makes me so angry. The ruling party here (BJP) doesn't have any real competition. Which means they can get away with pretty much anything. They've banned VPNs. They'll chuck you in prison if you speak against the government or a politician. Then they'll brand you as an "anti-nationalist" and openly say to their supporters that you deserve to be shot. Facial recognition is n…
This is just absurd. India has strong judicial system and no one, not even PM can abuse his power. This commenter has blind hatred against BJP. India is the country where you have freedom to criticize. To verify you can just search internet and YouTube. Regarding identify protestors, I think commenter is referring to recent protest where some people burned public property, who were identified through CCTVs and made t…
“Those who raise anti-national slogans should be put behind the bars,” he said. [1] (he = Amit Shah - Union Home Minister and friend of Modi [the PM])
[1] https://www.thestatesman.com/india/those-who-raise-anti-nati...
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Suppressing secession is tyranny. India should know a thing or two about that.
It is not tyranny, when it involves terrorism. There were multiple demands for secession in the past across Punjab, assam and all were resolved through dialog. Problem with Kashmir is, it Foreign Funded terrorism and there were attempts for discussions in the past and which didn't work
I'm not sure I would otherwise bring this up, as it's of tangential relevancy at best, but to return to GP's point, could the prelude to Indian independence (c. 1900-1920), and the response of the colonial government, not be described in similar terms?
http://theconversation.com/the-forgotten-violence-that-helpe...
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This is just absurd. India has strong judicial system and no one, not even PM can abuse his power. This commenter has blind hatred against BJP. India is the country where you have freedom to criticize. To verify you can just search internet and YouTube. Regarding identify protestors, I think commenter is referring to recent protest where some people burned public property, who were identified through CCTVs and made t…
> India is the country where you have freedom to criticize. To verify you can just search internet and YouTube. “Those who raise anti-national slogans should be put behind the bars,” he said. [1] (he = Amit Shah - Union Home Minister and friend of Modi [the PM]) [1] https://www.thestatesman.com/india/those-who-raise-anti-nati...
If you refresh your past memory, kishan kanhaiya raise slogans saying we will break India and he is not in jail.
Every one has right to express their opinion but judicial system will take its course. Govt cannot put people in jail just because someone criticized them. That was the point I am making. I can't make it any clearer than this for you