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A Database of Fugitive Slave Ads Reveals Thousands of Untold Stories (2018)

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Protecting the sovereignty of your country will be paramount in the future. Future generations will look back at this borderless craze.. as truly insane.

Maybe "the sovereignty of your country" is an obsolete concept that we inherited from the Middle Ages that should go away.

I'd suggest removing your front door and letting anyone walk in and live with you.

Tell me how that works out for your family.

Re: A Database of Fugitive Slave Ads Reveals Thousands of Untold Stories (2018)

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Protecting the sovereignty of your country will be paramount in the future. Future generations will look back at this borderless craze.. as truly insane.

>Protecting the sovereignty of your country will be paramount in the future. Well that would be a giant step back from all the gains that have been made post WWII with the development of the United Nations, UN Security Council, UN Charter, and the entire body of international laws which is founded on sovereign nations voluntarily subjecting themselves to these international law, treaties, customs and norms.

The United Nations is cancer. I'd suggest you look into Localism.

Re: A Database of Fugitive Slave Ads Reveals Thousands of Untold Stories (2018)

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> I wonder how they justified to themselves having slaves while talking about freedom and liberty. Isn't it pretty clear and straight-forward? It was based on the beliefs (regardless of the degree to which you might think from your perspective that those beliefs accurately represent reality or not) that many people held back then that there are significant racial differences between slaves and people, and the same ru…

> there are significant racial differences between slaves and people, and the same rules do not apply to white ones as to black ones because they are not the same species, they do not have the same brains/possibilities/rights/etc. Just like they did not grant any freedom to animals or trees. Personally, I find it hard to believe that Southern whites, who lived in such close proximity to their slaves, actually believe…

Which is why slavery was abolished in the end. But it doesn't happen in a day.

Re: A Database of Fugitive Slave Ads Reveals Thousands of Untold Stories (2018)

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So your thesis is ~100 years ago was some freak historical period when countries were mostly homogeneous (compared to current day. Please don't cite e.g. Czechs and Slovaks living in the same country as diversity comparable to current day), but throughout the rest of history, diversity was much greater. Do you have sources to back this up? And how did those countries become homogeneous, then?

How do you think all those European Americans got there? And, modern nation states are very new. For example, France drove to extinction or near extinction all languages besides French spoken in what is now present day France through government policy. Like the language of Bretagne. Your profound misunderstanding of history is not something I can rectify with citations. Read a book? Like, a scholarly book.

You haven't addressed parent's point. Until you do, your suggestions are laughable.

Re: A Database of Fugitive Slave Ads Reveals Thousands of Untold Stories (2018)

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Protecting the sovereignty of your country will be paramount in the future. Future generations will look back at this borderless craze.. as truly insane.

How has the sovereignty of your country materially benefited you?

The ability for my country to forecast expenses and protect the safety and security of its citizens -- to name a couple of examples.

Re: A Database of Fugitive Slave Ads Reveals Thousands of Untold Stories (2018)

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The article links to the original source: https://freedomonthemove.org Scrolling down, one sees an ad from none other than Thomas Jefferson: > In Alberale, a Mulatto slave called Sandy, about 35 years of age, his stature is rather low, including to corpulence, and his complexion light; he is a shoemaker by trade, in which he uses his left hand principally, and is something of a horse jockey; ... Whoever conveys the s…

Jefferson’s and Washington’s psychology was certainly very interesting as far as their attitudes towards freedom and slavery went. I wonder how they justified to themselves having slaves while talking about freedom and liberty. But we do the same today. A lot of us have pretty unsustainable lifestyles as far as the environment goes but we make ourselves feel good (or even superior to others) by adding a little bit of…

>Jefferson’s and Washington’s psychology was certainly very interesting as far as their attitudes towards freedom and slavery went. I wonder how they justified to themselves having slaves while talking about freedom and liberty.

The history of liberalism, from J.S. Mill to Jefferson is fraught with hypocrisies and inconsistencies like this[0].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism:_A_Counter-History

Re: A Database of Fugitive Slave Ads Reveals Thousands of Untold Stories (2018)

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You probably mean the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty, which was written a century after the founding of the nation. The founding fathers weren't shy about writing their ideas down. If you're going to speak of the founding, maybe you can quote the actual words of the actual founding fathers, instead of a poet 100 years later. Where did they say the country was founded as a refuge for asylum-seekers?

Remind me, if you will, who the Pilgrims were?

I didn't know the pilgrims founded the country.

Also ironic you would bring them up since they were very much an "asylum for me, but not for thee" group, which explains all of the religious refugees leaving Massachusetts during the pilgrim's rule.

Re: A Database of Fugitive Slave Ads Reveals Thousands of Untold Stories (2018)

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Remind me, if you will, who the Pilgrims were?

I didn't know the pilgrims founded the country. Also ironic you would bring them up since they were very much an "asylum for me, but not for thee" group, which explains all of the religious refugees leaving Massachusetts during the pilgrim's rule.

America is built of and by immigrants.

vs.

No it isn't.

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I didn't know the pilgrims founded the country. Also ironic you would bring them up since they were very much an "asylum for me, but not for thee" group, which explains all of the religious refugees leaving Massachusetts during the pilgrim's rule.

America is built of and by immigrants. vs. No it isn't.

It clearly is - native Americans certainly aren't the dominant people in the US.

Re: A Database of Fugitive Slave Ads Reveals Thousands of Untold Stories (2018)

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America is built of and by immigrants. vs. No it isn't.

It clearly is - native Americans certainly aren't the dominant people in the US.

> native Americans certainly aren't the dominant people in the US.

“Conquerors” and “immigrants” are meaningfully distinct, and the reason the indigenous people of the continent aren't dominant is at least as much the former as the latter.

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